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    Default Will the raptors make the playoffs next year?

    I think that this team has underachieved a tiny bit this year and with a full season of AB, JV + pick and the state of the eastern conference, the raps have a good shot. Predictions?

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    i think that if the draft goes right then yes we will be in the playoffs next year as a 8-6 seed

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    Quote Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    i think that if the draft goes right then yes we will be in the playoffs next year as a 8-6 seed
    Agreed.

    PG - Jose Calderon, Jerryd Bayless
    SG - Demar Derozan, Leandro Barbosa or F.A
    SF - Draft pick, James Johnson, Linas Kleiza, Gary Forbes
    PF - Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Ed Davis
    C - Jonas Valanciunas, Aaron Gray, Jamaal Magloire

    That should be a balanced team, and with a good full training camp, and a off-season to work with the coaching staff, the team can make good strides for next season.

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    if the nets don't get d Howard, the Atlantic division will be ours for years to come
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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    PG - Jose Calderon, Jerryd Bayless
    SG - Demar Derozan, Leandro Barbosa or F.A
    SF - Draft pick, James Johnson, Linas Kleiza, Gary Forbes
    PF - Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Ed Davis
    C - Jonas Valanciunas, Aaron Gray, Jamaal Magloire
    The only changes I would make here would be, someone other than Bayless of the bench PG (Ramon Sessions?). And the draft pick would be at the SG or PG spot (Beal, Rivers, Lamb, etc.)
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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    The only changes I would make here would be, someone other than Bayless of the bench PG (Ramon Sessions?). And the draft pick would be at the SG or PG spot (Beal, Rivers, Lamb, etc.)
    Beal, Rivers, or Lamb would be awesome. They could get equal minutes with Demar, and then unless Demar consistently performs, they could transition into the starting lineup, or be our sixth man i.e James Harden, OJ Mayo.

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    I'm going to wait until I see what this team looks like after free agency and just as importantly, what the rest of the east looks like after free agency. Asking this now seems ridiculously premature to me.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I'm going to wait until I see what this team looks like after free agency and just as importantly, what the rest of the east looks like after free agency. Asking this now seems ridiculously premature to me.
    Agreed.

    It's fun to speculate, but we really have no idea what this team will look like come September. It seems like every single player could be moved if the price was right.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I'm going to wait until I see what this team looks like after free agency and just as importantly, what the rest of the east looks like after free agency. Asking this now seems ridiculously premature to me.
    agree with the wing king but i could definitely see them getting a 7 or 8 seed next year. the team's been scrappy all year and been missing its best player for most of it. seems like every loss is by 2 or 3 points, too. if Bargs is here do we win those games? does BC stop texting Casey to put Butler in at the end of close games?

    next year we'll have big Val (oh how our expectations are so lofty already) and a lotto pick player (hopefully we don't screw it up) PLUS most likely a quality player or 2 through FA so by all logic we should be even better right?

    but yeah, like apollo said i want to see the roster first. BC could very well strike out completely this offseason (not saying i think he will) so im going to temper my enthusiasm a bit.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I'm going to wait until I see what this team looks like after free agency and just as importantly, what the rest of the east looks like after free agency. Asking this now seems ridiculously premature to me.
    +1

    Beyond ridiculously premature.

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    It's definitely too early to speculate, but I got stuck for a few seconds on the 7th word. Underachieved?!

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    It's to early to predict. Barring any major injury, we should be poised to make the playoffs next year. If we don't I think it's a huge failure on the managements side. Two high prospects coming in, lots cap room, and the young talent we have progressing over the summer there is no reason to expect less.

    I don't agree with the line up you have posted. I think the pieces going ahead on this roster should be DeRozan, Bargnani, Calderon, Ed Davis, Amir, JJ, Kleiza, Gray (for the right price), Forbes (only because he has another year left) and possibly Barbosa (for the right price). The rest of the spots need to be upgraded.

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    I DD plays like he has been since Feb and Bargs is at his early season form, I think we make the playoffs easily. I think next year we have:

    Jose, Bayless
    DD, Barbosa (Based on recent reports, I think he stays)
    JJ, Keliza
    Bargs, Ed
    Amir, Val, Gray

    Plus the pick. That is a team that can make some noise in the playoffs. This team is only getting better. Casey has them buying in and the defense, especially on the inside, is very nice. If we can improve our perimeter D and get the offense flowing smoother (Bargs will help with that) this team is going to be very very good.
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    next year is our time to take over the Atlantic division and setup camp there for a couple of decades and make the playoffs. I'm soo hyped for next season woooooooo!

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    man you are going to be so bummed
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    Too many unknowns to assume everything will turn out positively in our favour:

    - Can Bargnani plan efficiently for a full 82-game season?
    - Will Calderon be traded? If not, can he stay relatively healthy after playing for Spain all summer?
    - Will Barbosa be traded?
    - Will one of Amir/Davis be traded?
    - Will Bayless' option be picked up?
    - Where do we land in the draft lottery?
    - Who do we pick with our selection?
    - If trades are made, do we obtain any extra 2012 picks? If so, who else do we pick?
    - Will Valanciunas struggle out of the gates?
    - Can DeRozan maintain a level of consistency?
    - Does Kleiza's knee remain trouble-free?
    - Will JJ learn how to shoot?
    - etc., etc.

    We're far from a well-oiled machine to be making conclusions about the playoffs just yet.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Too many unknowns to assume everything will turn out positively in our favour:

    - Can Bargnani plan efficiently for a full 82-game season?
    - Will Calderon be traded? If not, can he stay relatively healthy after playing for Spain all summer?
    - Will Barbosa be traded?
    - Will one of Amir/Davis be traded?
    - Will Bayless' option be picked up?
    - Where do we land in the draft lottery?
    - Who do we pick with our selection?
    - If trades are made, do we obtain any extra 2012 picks? If so, who else do we pick?
    - Will Valanciunas struggle out of the gates?
    - Can DeRozan maintain a level of consistency?
    - Does Kleiza's knee remain trouble-free?
    - Will JJ learn how to shoot?
    - etc., etc.

    We're far from a well-oiled machine to be making conclusions about the playoffs just yet.
    Not to mention what all the other teams in the east are going to look like next season.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Too many unknowns to assume everything will turn out positively in our favour:

    - Can Bargnani plan efficiently for a full 82-game season?
    - Will Calderon be traded? If not, can he stay relatively healthy after playing for Spain all summer?
    - Will Barbosa be traded?
    - Will one of Amir/Davis be traded?
    - Will Bayless' option be picked up?
    - Where do we land in the draft lottery?
    - Who do we pick with our selection?
    - If trades are made, do we obtain any extra 2012 picks? If so, who else do we pick?
    - Will Valanciunas struggle out of the gates?
    - Can DeRozan maintain a level of consistency?
    - Does Kleiza's knee remain trouble-free?
    - Will JJ learn how to shoot?
    - etc., etc.

    We're far from a well-oiled machine to be making conclusions about the playoffs just yet.
    Every team has their problems, whether they are making the playoffs or not.

    Chicago

    -Can Richard Hamilton can healthy?
    -Can Derrick Rose stay healthy?
    -Can Joakim Noah pick up his play?
    -Will they get enough out of their front court?
    -Can they be able to help Derrick Rose come playoff time?
    -Can Boozer pick up his former all-star form play?


    Miami

    -Will Lebron perform in the fourth quarter?
    -Can Chris Bosh perform at a high lever come playoff time?
    -Can Dwayne Wade and Lebron carry this team consistently?
    -Will they crunch under the zone defense.
    -Will they crunch under pressure?
    -Can Miami's bench step up consistenly?
    -Who do they go to in the final seconds?
    -will Lebron keep passing off final shots?
    -Is Chris Bosh the most important key on Miami?

    Those are playoff teams you can say they are far from a well-oiled machine to be making conclusions about winning a championship.

    New Jersey

    -Is Deron Williams staying?
    -Is Dwight Howard coming?
    -Constant Trade rumors
    -What happens with Brook Lopez
    -Whos staying, who's going?
    -Will Deron Williams be able to work with Dwight Howard?
    -Draft pick
    -Lottery balls dropping where?

    Sacramento

    -Will Demarcus Cousins ever mature
    -Is Tyreke Evans a point guard?
    -How do we juggle minutes between Evans, Fredette, and Thomas?
    -Are we going to be in Sacramento?
    -Who do we get in the draft?
    -Where are we going to drop in the draft lottery?

    No team is perfect, they all have their separate problems. You can't just point out problems and say they aren't going to improve. Every team has imperfections and problems that come across, but every team goes through it, what makes a team is they get through the hump and fix their problems. There is never going to be a team without a problem/flaw.

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    Chicago and Miami will remain championship contenders even if those questions aren't answered.

    We can't say the same about the Raptors, which is why it's difficult to conclude we'll be in the playoffs next year based on what we know today. If we heard New Jersey or Sacramento fans making these claims, we'd laugh in their faces.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Chicago and Miami will remain championship contenders even if those questions aren't answered.

    We can't say the same about the Raptors, which is why it's difficult to conclude we'll be in the playoffs next year based on what we know today. If we heard New Jersey or Sacramento fans making these claims, we'd laugh in their faces.
    But we're talking about playoffs next year?

    Sacramento can make run for it, cause Demarcus Cousins is buying into Keith Smart's system, and Isaiah Thomas is looking intriguing, plus they'll have a draft pick coming in.

    Nets are if Dwight Howard comes to the Nets, they'll be a playoff team, just because it's a huge upgrade at the centre. Plus, if everyone is healthy, without D12, they can be a playoff team. It's just injuries really affected them like they've affected us.

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