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Thread: Dwane Casey's vision of the roster next season: see post 37 for update

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Darius Miles was a medical retirement.

    Portland amnestied Roy. They would have had to of waited until sometime in April 2012 to clear his contract off the books to use the salary cap space as medical retirements cannot be pursued until they have missed 1 year. Amnesty gave them immediate cap relief.
    thought it was also medical for him. my bad

    “I am talking about experience maybe 25, 26, 28. There are some 36, 37, 38 year olds I would take, but I would rather have it a little younger.”

    i know a really good 38 year old point guard and we cant really say "there is one 38 year old i would take" can we

    i think the entire big 3 in boston are going back to boston at much reduced salaries.

    in the event our pick is 5-10 would you move it for rondo with calderon?

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    I heard Josh Smith wants out of Atlanta. Perhaps we can offer Bargs and get J-Smoove in town?
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    I heard Josh Smith wants out of Atlanta. Perhaps we can offer Bargs and get J-Smoove in town?
    What if we did a deal around DD and JJ?

    Calderon
    Lamb/Beal
    Jsmoove
    Bargs
    Val

    We have two good defenders to cover up for Bargs, plus its still a really young team.
    Can you imagine Calderon throwing alley-oops for Smith?

    Edit:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7oggtx6
    Something like this, plus our 2014 first rounder?
    Last edited by Hello; Fri Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:55 AM.

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    Hinrich is a great backup PG - low maintenance, good shooter, good defender.

    Jason Terry is very intriguing, obviously because of the Casey-Dallas connection. But actually, if Dallas is going to gun for D Will or D12, will they have the cash to re-up Jet? I would love to see JT in a Raps uni, brings so much fire and grit (not to mention his shooting)

    SF is where the Raps future is really up in there air. James Johnson is developing nicely but is he a starter or a stopper off the bench? and Kleiza brings the shooting and toughness Casey desires but nobody sees him as a starter next year. Batum is unlikely as has he is arguably Portlands second best player (will match). but could Gerald Wallace be had??? Wallace would turn the raps into a top 10 defensive team overnight

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    Quote IROR wrote: View Post
    Hinrich is a great backup PG - low maintenance, good shooter, good defender.

    Jason Terry is very intriguing, obviously because of the Casey-Dallas connection. But actually, if Dallas is going to gun for D Will or D12, will they have the cash to re-up Jet? I would love to see JT in a Raps uni, brings so much fire and grit (not to mention his shooting)

    SF is where the Raps future is really up in there air. James Johnson is developing nicely but is he a starter or a stopper off the bench? and Kleiza brings the shooting and toughness Casey desires but nobody sees him as a starter next year. Batum is unlikely as has he is arguably Portlands second best player (will match). but could Gerald Wallace be had??? Wallace would turn the raps into a top 10 defensive team overnight
    Apparently When their were wallace trade rumors a few years ago, he said he would not play for us. Not sure how he feels now, but would not be surprised if he feels the same way.

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    I used to be a big Wallace fan from his days in Charlotte but now I can't stand him. Watched a few Blazers games this year and he mailed in some of them, just zero effort. I don't care how talented you are, I only want guys that give consistent effort on my team.

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    Wallace would've made sense on this roster 2 years ago. I don't see how he fits a rebuild.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Wallace would've made sense on this roster 2 years ago. I don't see how he fits a rebuild.
    Exactly. How much more is Wallace going to give you than James Johnson currently does? Don't get me wrong, Wallace is the better player but when we are talking a $9M difference in salary I think those dollars can be spent elsewhere (*whisper in the night* Batuuuuuuuum *echo, echo, echo*).

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    Don't wanna get laughed at, but would anybody want JR smith as a backup behind demar? If we had a chance to get him would you?

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Exactly. How much more is Wallace going to give you than James Johnson currently does? Don't get me wrong, Wallace is the better player but when we are talking a $9M difference in salary I think those dollars can be spent elsewhere (*whisper in the night* Batuuuuuuuum *echo, echo, echo*).

    it seems your priority has switched from chandler to batum.

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    Quote Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    it seems your priority has switched from chandler to batum.
    It happens.

    I'd still be very much happy with Chandler without ridiculous overpayment.

    The reason for the switch is the play of Batum since they put him in the starting lineup. He has been incredible. Chandler is a solid, versatile starter. Batum has the chance to be a star, in my opinion.

    This is another good reason why fans should never be GM's. We are allowed to flip flop with no consequences - besides being called out by your peers

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    ... We are allowed to flip flop with no consequences - besides being called out by your peers
    As if you have any peers Matt :-)

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    Quote Puffer wrote: View Post
    As if you have any peers Matt :-)
    I was referring to the RR community.

    Puffer, will you be my peer? :P

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    I was all about getting Chandler as well, but I prefer Batum. I think getting Wilson before March 1st would have helped us financially. There were less teams with cap space that were willing to make an offer. I think we would have got him at a slightly discounted price because of the market. I see a team over paying for both of these guys in the off-season. I'm willing to pay it in Batum's case.

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    Quote saints91 wrote: View Post
    I was all about getting Chandler as well, but I prefer Batum. I think getting Wilson before March 1st would have helped us financially. There were less teams with cap space that were willing to make an offer. I think we would have got him at a slightly discounted price because of the market. I see a team over paying for both of these guys in the off-season. I'm willing to pay it in Batum's case.
    I think you guys are undervaluing what Batum is going to get paid. I saw $30 mm over four years thrown out .. thats WAY light. Im pretty sure that $40 mm over four years is light too. Im not sure I want to pay him $12 mm or so a year .. which is what I think the market might bear ...

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    Quote mountio wrote: View Post
    I think you guys are undervaluing what Batum is going to get paid. I saw $30 mm over four years thrown out .. thats WAY light. Im pretty sure that $40 mm over four years is light too. Im not sure I want to pay him $12 mm or so a year .. which is what I think the market might bear ...
    For what it is worth, I totally agree.

    $11M is the number I have had in my head - and I might have mentioned it elsewhere on the forums as well.

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    yeah I think I remember reading that he is not allowed to re-sign with Portland until his previous contract with them would have expired, but don't quote me.

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    Quote Justin Bonin wrote: View Post
    yeah I think I remember reading that he is not allowed to re-sign with Portland until his previous contract with them would have expired, but don't quote me.
    His contract expires June 30th.

    He is a RFA.

    Portland has 3 days to match any offer sheet he receives or the Blazers can sign him to a contract after July 1st.

    His agent said in January that he would talk to the other 29 teams in the league before he negotiated with Portland again.

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    Based on the comments from Casey I would seriously go after Batum, Mayo if Batum is not successful. I am still for Lillard or Beal in the draft and keeping Jose.

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    Ya I would think that Batum would get in between 9-12. I don't think he has proved enough to get paid as much as Deng, Granger, or Iggy. Under 12mil for sure. When you consider Bargs will only be making 10mil next year we have to put that into perspective. I would pay Batum the same contract over 5 years.

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