Gauging the 2012 Draft pick - and how the Raptors move forward

[Jon_Wade]

No i'd keep him at SG. But consider this, with his skills you could start a big defensive PG beside him (George Hill?) and run the offense through him, especially at the end of games. In regards to Derozen, i'd start him at SF. He's proven to be more effective there, especially when he works his postup game. JJ would come off the bench, giving the second unit a solid shot of energy and defense. On games where DeMar lollygags, JJ gets his minutes.

A lineup of:
Hill/FA or Drafted
Beal/Forbesy
Demar/JJ/Kleiza
Bargs/Ed/Amir
Big Val/Gray

I like that lineup a lot. You've got shooters at every position and enough defense to cover up Demar who's actually been playing decent D lately. Bench is strong, in fact you could still trade Amir or Ed and be effective.

If your going to get a big pg i would say if possible get Rodney Stuckey

[ceez]

Yeah but I said PG

[Jon_Wade]

fair enough

[Checkines]

If the balls fall in place today I'd say the draft would go

Charlotte Anthony Davis
New Orleans Drummond
Washington Robinson
Nets MGK

And then depending on where the Raptors are placed between the 5-7 picks, I'd think they'd take one of Barnes, Beal, and Lamb in that order depending on who is available

[ReubenJRD]

The thing with Beal is his game is more tailored for the NBA, too. He's good at what he does in college but he's going to be awesome in the NBA. I've heard rumblings of teams wanting to possibly convert him to PG since his ball handling and court vision are so good.

Austin Rivers is the same guy. A lot of players in college have NBA-fit games. I.E Beal, Rivers, Lamb, Barnes... etc.

[stretch]

If the balls fall in place today I'd say the draft would go

Charlotte Anthony Davis
New Orleans Drummond
Washington Robinson
Nets MGK

And then depending on where the Raptors are placed between the 5-7 picks, I'd think they'd take one of Barnes, Beal, and Lamb in that order depending on who is available

Under the current lottery system, which has been in place since 1990, the worst team has a 1 in 4 chance of landing the first pick. It usually does not go that way as the worst has won only four times in 27 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Draft_Lottery

[Draft]

Maybe we can save this thread for when we know who the specific player is. The criteria we use to measure success will largely depend on what position he plays.

Their biggest problem for years has been no consistent (reliable) shooter down the stretch of games - not defence. Triano tried to compensate by outscoring the opposition. Casey has finally publicly and correctly stated what they desperately need. This is a particularly difficult draft because the stars seems to be scattered throughout instead of in a neat smallish clique. They say people don't become good shooters once they enter the NBA (exceptions). Don't know who they should draft but sincerely hope they can shoot down the stretch and play some defence. I believe these are the parameters their drafting should be judged on unless they see a real gem in another direction (possibly MKG????).

[ReubenJRD]

Their biggest problem for years has been no consistent (reliable) shooter down the stretch of games - not defence. Triano tried to compensate by outscoring the opposition. Casey has finally publicly and correctly stated what they desperately need. This is a particularly difficult draft because the stars seems to be scattered throughout instead of in a neat smallish clique. They say people don't become good shooters once they enter the NBA (exceptions). Don't know who they should draft but sincerely hope they can shoot down the stretch and play some defence. I believe these are the parameters their drafting should be judged on unless they see a real gem in another direction (possibly MKG????).

If we need a shooter and producer instantly, than Barnes or Lamb is our guy. But if we want an overall player, Beal or MKG. I mostly prefer to have Beal or MKG though.

[NoPropsneeded]

Overall you go miller. I think he is everything you want at the 3 he has a chance to be a great player

[Checkines]

Yes I know that, I guess I should have typed it more clear, I meant if the balls fell the way they theoretically supposed to go. The Raptors had at the time I posted the exact odds as Detroit and Sacremento and meant I would expect them to draft in that range and would expect them to draft one of those three players

[deebee]

for an SF working within the rhythm of our offence (and assuming that valancunias won't have the offence running through him, but bargs & derozan will keep getting touches) i'd like to see a MINIMUM year-end line of 12-4-4, with some noticeable improvements after the all-star break

[ReubenJRD]

for an SF working within the rhythm of our offence (and assuming that valancunias won't have the offence running through him, but bargs & derozan will keep getting touches) i'd like to see a MINIMUM year-end line of 12-4-4, with some noticeable improvements after the all-star break

Those are similar to MKG's college numbers I believe. MKG could be a 16-5-5 guy.

[Miekenstien]

for an SF working within the rhythm of our offence (and assuming that valancunias won't have the offence running through him, but bargs & derozan will keep getting touches) i'd like to see a MINIMUM year-end line of 12-4-4, with some noticeable improvements after the all-star break

this i think depends on our pg and bigV' passing abilities. if we have pg like jennings and V can pass well then going through him is a great way to go as long as everyone makes the extra pass. if we have a nash type pg shooters are best for when the d collapses and if we are still using jose we need a guy who can do everything like you said because of all the play calls that will be made.