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    Default Everything Jerryd Bayless

    I've been saying all year long..watch him play a full a game and see how good he is. The past three games the guy has produced, end of story! He might be the best 3-point shooter on the team. The guy is a legit future starting PG in the league...
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    I'm not a hater by any means, but 3 decent games in a row does not make one a legit future starting PG in the league. Nor does a few good games mixed in with a few bad ones. A few years in the league with consistent inconsistencies may state he is not though. Either way time is running out. I'm happy with him as our backup for now though.

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    Lol don't get Matt started. It was a good game though

    20Pts, 4Reb, 7Ast(3TO) 6-13 FG 4-7 3FG 2-2FT

    Had some bad shots but, I'll take a few of those a game if you give me that defensive effort !

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    a GM who makes any decisions based on a few games, gets fired!

    He can't run a team ... may get some good individual results, because he is a good scorer (and shooter, as you mentioned), but not a good floor general, or passer/playmaker.
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    Bayless made some very difficult shots tonight.

    I did not like the fact that many of the half court possessions ended with a contested shot with a few seconds left on the shot clock. Bayless does not see the cutters, especially the baseline cutters.

    I was surprised Byron Scott did not start Boobie at the 2 and have him put pressure on Bayless when bringing up the ball, and switch with Kyrie in the defensive zone. As much as I love Kyrie Irving and think he will be a great player, he can't (yet) play defense and has been lit up by many lesser point guards.

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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    I'm not a hater by any means, but 3 decent games in a row does not make one a legit future starting PG in the league. Nor does a few good games mixed in with a few bad ones. A few years in the league with consistent inconsistencies may state he is not though. Either way time is running out. I'm happy with him as our backup for now though.
    +1

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    Default So where are all the Bayless haters?

    Right HERE Baby!!

    The only reason I say keep him is because he can keep up with the younger and quicker guards. Jose simply can't keep up. But if we can find an ACTUAL point guard (that can keep up with the younger guards) I'm all for it.

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    just watching the game now. I'll get back to you on the hating. I hear he had a good game. I'll give credit where credit is due.

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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    a GM who makes any decisions based on a few games, gets fired!

    He can't run a team ... may get some good individual results, because he is a good scorer (and shooter, as you mentioned), but not a good floor general, or passer/playmaker.
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    Kyrie Irving and Sessions didn't lay down ANY defensive pressure, and made it easier for Bayless to run the offence. He made a lot of tough shots, but it doesn't mean they were any good ones. He had some good choices cutting to the basket, he had some teammates on mismatches and didn't hit them, good solid game running the point and scoring, but this team probably could've been much better ran by Jose.

    I like Bayless, but I've always said, he's just not a point guard. His abilities/decisions separate him from a scoring point guard to a shooting guard in a point guard's body.

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    Every time one of these threads pops up I want to smash my keyboard over my head

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Every time one of these threads pops up I want to smash my keyboard over my head
    HAHAHAHAH. Perfect way to explain Bayless' point guard abilities.

    Everyone needs to take a chill pill, it's only 3 games.

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    when does it become an acceptable amount of games? we are all so happy with bargs' 13 games after 5 years. i really couldn't care less about bayless. like him moving forward but not as a lead guard. he is barbosa to me on this team moving forward.

    i am happy that he has played well these 3 games. and if you look at his minutes and shot selection over the year casey pulls him quick when he makes stupid turnovers or starts to get tunnel vision. when he is playing on this team i know that he is doing everything casey asks of him or trying his best at it. that is all i can ask of him.

    in another thread i said we should give him his offer but i was wrong as others pointed out because no one is going to give him 4 million next year. if we can get him at 2-3 million a season for 3-4 years that is great to me.

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    Quote Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    when does it become an acceptable amount of games? we are all so happy with bargs' 13 games after 5 years. i really couldn't care less about bayless. like him moving forward but not as a lead guard. he is barbosa to me on this team moving forward.

    i am happy that he has played well these 3 games. and if you look at his minutes and shot selection over the year casey pulls him quick when he makes stupid turnovers or starts to get tunnel vision. when he is playing on this team i know that he is doing everything casey asks of him or trying his best at it. that is all i can ask of him.

    in another thread i said we should give him his offer but i was wrong as others pointed out because no one is going to give him 4 million next year. if we can get him at 2-3 million a season for 3-4 years that is great to me.
    With your point to Bargnani, he played a good game on both ends of the floor.

    I agree none the less.

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    I do believe this thread is premature. I think we should be happy that we're getting production out of one of are player. Instead of trying to find what's wrong with it. The end of the day Jerryd Bayless helped us win today and that's all that matters.

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    Why are people only including these 3 games? The whole point that people like me are making, is he was arguably the best player on the Raptors last year when Jose went down. And low and behold, Jose goes down and Bayless is once again arguably the best player on the team.

    And, judging by 3 games you say is too little? Same goes for his deficiencies, how is he going to become a better floor general? With 30+ starter minutes a game, until he and everyone else gets comfortable with him running the offense.

    Look he already is an accomplished shooter, he has the toughness and energy, and arguably the quickness to be a starting point-guard. The only draw back I see, is his mental lapses. How best do you overcome those mental mistakes, playing time plain and simple!
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    I do believe this thread is premature. I think we should be happy that we're getting production out of one of are player. Instead of trying to find what's wrong with it. The end of the day Jerryd Bayless helped us win today and that's all that matters.
    Oh no, don't get us wrong. Well, I'll speak for myself...

    I like Bayless' game, and he played solid tonight, it's just, he's proving why he can't be a future player at running the team for us, which is a discussion/topic that is constantly being talked about regardless the thread.

    He played hard out there, made good decisions, had some bad ones, especially with shot selection, but other than that he had a solid game for us at the point guard. I would TOTALLY love to see him prove me wrong, it's just his showing from the past that has proved unreliable for us.

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    Quote Raptorsss wrote: View Post
    Why are people only including these 3 games? The whole point that people like me are making, is he was arguably the best player on the Raptors last year when Jose went down. And low and behold, Jose goes down and Bayless is once again arguably the best player on the team.

    And, judging by 3 games you say is too little? Same goes for his deficiencies, how is he going to become a better floor general? With 30+ starter minutes a game, until he and everyone else gets comfortable with him running the offense.

    Look he already is an accomplished shooter, he has the toughness and energy, and arguably the quickness to be a starting point-guard. The only draw back I see, is his mental lapses. How best do you overcome those mental mistakes, playing time plain and simple!
    Best player on the raptors when Jose went down?! Demar was MOST DEFINITELY the best player when both Bargnani and Jose was out.
    Plus if you're talking about low and behold, or in other words today's game, the best player was Andrea Bargnani/Amir Johnson.

    If he consistently performs in those 30+ minutes, THAN we can talk about how good he is at the point guard situation, but it is too little. 3 games is not an NBA season my friend.

    Mental lapses? I can't disagree with that. But he has tunnel vision, looks for his shot first, terrible court awareness, can't take defensive pressure, bad shot selection, just so much that takes away from him, and he's proved to us in the past that he's an unreliable point guard. Like I said, if he consistently performs at the level he is playing, THAN we can make judgments about his positives/negatives.

    EDIT* The team is not supposed to be adjusting their comfort level with you, as the floor general, it's your job to be comfortable to adjust into the way the team plays. I.E The Knicks situation Carmelo playing with Lin.....

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    Quote Raptorsss wrote: View Post
    Why are people only including these 3 games? The whole point that people like me are making, is he was arguably the best player on the Raptors last year when Jose went down. And low and behold, Jose goes down and Bayless is once again arguably the best player on the team.

    And, judging by 3 games you say is too little? Same goes for his deficiencies, how is he going to become a better floor general? With 30+ starter minutes a game, until he and everyone else gets comfortable with him running the offense.

    Look he already is an accomplished shooter, he has the toughness and energy, and arguably the quickness to be a starting point-guard. The only draw back I see, is his mental lapses. How best do you overcome those mental mistakes, playing time plain and simple!
    I agree with the only way to get better Is with experience. Hopefully he uses this stretch to do that. I still believe he capable of being a starting lead guard in this league. In a Billups mold.

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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Best player on the raptors when Jose went down?! Demar was MOST DEFINITELY the best player when both Bargnani and Jose was out.
    Plus if you're talking about low and behold, or in other words today's game, the best player was Andrea Bargnani/Amir Johnson.

    If he consistently performs in those 30+ minutes, THAN we can talk about how good he is at the point guard situation, but it is too little. 3 games is not an NBA season my friend.

    Mental lapses? I can't disagree with that. But he has tunnel vision, looks for his shot first, terrible court awareness, can't take defensive pressure, bad shot selection, just so much that takes away from him, and he's proved to us in the past that he's an unreliable point guard. Like I said, if he consistently performs at the level he is playing, THAN we can make judgments about his positives/negatives.

    EDIT* The team is not supposed to be adjusting their comfort level with you, as the floor general, it's your job to be comfortable to adjust into the way the team plays. I.E The Knicks situation Carmelo playing with Lin.....
    His only proven that his not a reliable back up point guard

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