I just want to point out the statistics though. 8 assists per game is certainly evidence but I wouldn't call it proof. Pounding the piss out of the ball, looking for yourself first/passing as a last resort, and ill advised jump shots are still flaws in his game. What gives me hope though is that he has shown the ability to play as a pass first point guard and a legit scoring threat within the flow of the offense. Unfortunately consistency from game to game - and even half to half - is lacking.
By the way, Jerryd, overall, played a very good game against Memphis.
And yeah that is something, and he has been shutting down every other point guard he's played against, don't get me wrong, I've been loving the way he's playing recently, and I've always liked his game, it's just his offensive play-making is different to Jose's and I just wanted to point out the differences.
He is improving, I'm not disagreeing with you. He really only had up to go. I haven't denied that he has improved, I'm just saying you guys are making him out to be a super playmaker, and passer and he is far from it. Last night was ugly, we won, but it was ugly basketball. If your arguments are not going to be realistic than there is no point in debating.
He's played great for 4 games, and hopefully he continues to do. Not sure what the debate is....
I've never once contended that is Jose Calderon 2.0. He's not.
But it seems like you guys expect him to be in order to be an effective PG.
I believe that is unrealistic.
Last edited by Joey; Sat Mar 17th, 2012 at 05:02 PM.
I don't think I should be comparing the two, but they are both playing the same position on the same team. I have a preference in PG play, and apparently other people have their preferences. Agree to disagree.
I don't think Bayless will ever be the pass first, make other players around you better qualities that I like. He has a style and it works him. I'll say this when Bayless makes that first pass early in the shot clock and doesn't hold on to it he plays 100% better. Unfortunately he abandons that after the first quarter.
Funny how the Raps win and a poster in a Raps forum posts something like this.
Didnt the Raps dig their own grave too when they let Gay hoist up 2 game tying 3 pointers?
When JJ fouled too early?
When the Raps led by as much as 15 and let the the Griz catch up?
The supposed lane violation?
The "act of shooting" foul on clearly planted feet of the offensive player?
FTs are part of the game, either you make em or miss em.
How bout Bayless 2 baskets in the dying seconds?
And FTs? what about Forbes' FTs? and Amir's?
The Raps won this game, nobody "handed it to them".
One aspect that I think Bayless has over Calderon is his fearlessness. I dont think Ive ever seen Calderon attack the basket or put the game in his hands during the dying seconds of the game. IMO, during the dying seconds, the guard position has the best chance of creating a good play since he's most likely the fastest who can get to the basket or make the kickout pass.
Last edited by saints91; Sat Mar 17th, 2012 at 09:01 PM.
No doubt the Raptors won the game - and deservedly so. However, the Grizzlies missed many more foul shots than they normally do and it was the difference in the game.
Personally, I think it was the basketball gods levelling playing field due to the sh!t officiating and allowing the team that deserved the win to get it.
But i do apologize, i acted in haste to your comment. I understand what you were saying, that the Griz could have had a better chance to win if they made their FTs. My apologies.
He is improving as a passer and he is very clutch.
Didn't watch the game but Augustine had 23 on pretty good shooting. Seems like the backcourts were a wash tonight.
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