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    Quote themasao wrote: View Post
    As an aside:


    Garcia and Hayes' reaction had me laughing...and scratching my head. Do individual players really care about tanking?
    LOL Definately worth watching. Garcia and Hayes seem to care

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    LOL Definately worth watching. Garcia and Hayes seem to care
    Shows how difficult it is for players on the floor with adrenaline pumping to actually tank/clank a shot. Thornton ran a near perfect play to get open and shot the ball to score. With Garcia's reaction it is clear that "tanking" had to have been discussed among the players. I think muscle memory and bb dna kicks in because these guys have ALWAYS been wired to win. The same thing happened to Kleiza last night. That is one of his favourite positions and could have tied the game...he shot to make it. I would have done a Garcia if he did.

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    I don't understand why tanking is an issue all-of-a-sudden. It's been this way for years, and is basically the same way in all major sports.
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I don't understand why tanking is an issue all-of-a-sudden. It's been this way for years, and is basically the same way in all major sports.
    It is because all the big or desirable markets are in the playoffs. New York, LA, or Chicago in the lottery, this is not nearly as big an issue as it has been made out to be this year.

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    i heard somewhere that Garcia wasn't upset cause he made the shot and he wanted to "Tank", its because Thornton shot it a little too early on the clock so the other team still had a chance to win it.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    i heard somewhere that Garcia wasn't upset cause he made the shot and he wanted to "Tank", its because Thornton shot it a little too early on the clock so the other team still had a chance to win it.
    Ya I heard that too -- it's definitely possible. I mean its all speculation really, but I still find it kinda suspect how Garcia still seemed pissed off after the buzzer sounded. Not to mention, the play was clearly designed as a curl around a screen for a spot up shot. Gordon would have been an idiot (from a non-tanking perspective) to do anything other than catch-and-shoot.

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    I can't buy that.

    Would you expect a player to admit that they wanted to loose. Imagine what that would open up!

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    i find that stupid too. I seriously doubt players have the same perspective to tanking as fans. We think it'll make us better, but to them it should be an insult thinking a younger kid can come in and turn the team around, but they can't.

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    Default It's a pathetic race but it's wide open

    So I'm here looking at the standings and I'm seeing this:

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                                                              LOTTERY
       	                W	 L	PCT	STRK    Chances	Odds
    1	Charlotte 	7	57	0.109	Lost 21	250	25%
    2	Washington 	18	46	0.281	Won 4	199	20%
    3	New Orleans 	20	44	0.313	Lost 1	156	16%
    4	Cleveland 	21	43	0.328	Lost 2	119	12%
    5	Sacramento 	21	43	0.328	Won 1	88	9%
    6	New Jersey 	22	43	0.338	Lost 5	63	6%
    7	Toronto 	22	43	0.338	Lost 4	43	4%
    8	Golden State 	23	41	0.359	Won 1	28	3%
    If the Raptors lose the last two they could conceivably finish with or tied for 4th worst record in the league. I guess 3rd isn't officially out but it's a massive long shot.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    So I'm here looking at the standings and I'm seeing this:

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                                                              LOTTERY
       	                W	 L	PCT	STRK    Chances	Odds
    1	Charlotte 	7	57	0.109	Lost 21	250	25%
    2	Washington 	18	46	0.281	Won 4	199	20%
    3	New Orleans 	20	44	0.313	Lost 1	156	16%
    4	Cleveland 	21	43	0.328	Lost 2	119	12%
    5	Sacramento 	21	43	0.328	Won 1	88	9%
    6	New Jersey 	22	43	0.338	Lost 5	63	6%
    7	Toronto 	22	43	0.338	Lost 4	43	4%
    8	Golden State 	23	41	0.359	Won 1	28	3%
    If the Raptors lose the last two they could conceivably finish with or tied for 4th worst record in the league. I guess 3rd isn't officially out but it's a massive long shot.
    Top 3 games remaining on the 'tanking schedule':

    New Orleans and Golden State play Tuesday
    Cleveland and Washington play Wednesday
    New Jersey and Toronto play Thursday

    Bonus 'tanking matches':

    Sacramento and OKC (minus Harden)
    Sacramento and LAL (at SAC where they are 15-17 with Laker distractions everywhere)

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Top 3 games remaining on the 'tanking schedule':

    New Orleans and Golden State play Tuesday
    Cleveland and Washington play Wednesday
    New Jersey and Toronto play Thursday

    Bonus 'tanking matches':

    Sacramento and OKC (minus Harden)
    Sacramento and LAL (at SAC where they are 15-17 with Laker distractions everywhere)
    I'd even settle with Toronto finishing in a tie for 5th worse with Cleveland, which would give them both a 7.5% chance. The NJ game is big for Tank Nation, as it could conceivably put the losing team at the T-5 position (7.5%) and the winning team at the #7 position (4%)... one meaningless game could be the difference between drafting Beal/Barnes and drafting from the next tier (Sullinger, Jones, Jones III, Lamb, Lillard, Marshall).

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    It's starting all over again.

    Just lose, baby!

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    It's so great to have the poisonous tanking mindset behind us!
    TORONTOOOOOO RAPTORSSSSSS

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