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    Quote ogitheserb wrote: View Post
    we still have a chance to get to #5! We have to lose every game from now on, most importantly to Cleveland and NJ. Cleveland still has Washington to play, so that would even out our records.
    First, Toronto doesn't play Cleveland again this year. Toronto plays Miami (no Wade or Bosh), Detroit, Milwaukee and New Jersey.

    Second, given the remaining schedule, I find it more likely that Toronto will wind up in the 6th spot heading into the lottery. I seriously doubt either Sacramento or Cleveland will win more than 1 game each, leaving them in the #4/5 spots. If Toronto loses all 4 games, they would secure the #6 spot, meaning they could draft 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th...

    CURRENT WINS & REMAINING GAMES
    7 - Charlotte (will finish #1)
    15 - Washington (will finish #2)
    19 - New Orleans (Memphis, Houston, LAC, Golden State, Houston)
    20 - Sacramento (San Antonio, Oklahoma, Charlotte, Oklahoma, LAL)
    20 - Cleveland (Philadelphia, NY, San Antonio, Memphis, Washington, Chicago)
    22 - Toronto (Miami, Detroit, Milwaukee, NJ)
    22 - New Jersey (NY, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Toronto)
    22 - Golden State (LAL, Dallas, Houston, Minnesota, New Orleans, San Antonio)
    23 - Detroit (Atlanta, Minnesota, Toronto, Indiana, Philadelphia)

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    Just some opinions on tanking.

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    Henry Abbott is the opinion that hits the nail on the head for me with tanking and paying customers paying to see "bad teams trying to be bad," but then Abbott has been labeled a "douchebag" (?????) by our illustrious super moderator.

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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    Henry Abbott is the opinion that hits the nail on the head for me with tanking and paying customers paying to see "bad teams trying to be bad," but then Abbott has been labeled a "douchebag" (?????) by our illustrious super moderator.
    Yes and the context in which the comment was made can be found here:

    http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...l=1#post124311

    I stand by the comment. If the larger and more desirable markets were in the draft this year, the tanking drum beat would not be this loud. As I showed in the comment above, just about every single playoff team has been built through the draft lottery.

    Given the system - especially for small market teams - to build a winning team you need talent and the best way to get talent is through the draft lottery.

    Henry Abbott's opinion doesn't factor in ever getting out of the cellar. Does a paying fan continue to support a team stuck in purgatory with little chance of ever getting out?

    Sometimes to take a step forward you need to take one or two back. Being competitive year in and year out (just missing playoffs or first round exit) is really admirable. Unfortunately, professional sports are not played to be competitive - they are played to be won.
    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Wed Apr 18th, 2012 at 08:03 PM. Reason: draft "lottery" added to clarify

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    Default What about the flip side of tanking?

    What do people think about the HEAT resting players for "maintenance" as was seen tonight with Bosh and Wade sitting?

    The Spurs do it as well.

    I can't find the tweet with the quote from Gregg Popovich but he essentially said, "Teams should win for themselves so what another team does is irrelevant."

    He mentioned the idea of the paying fan not seeing the top players but his response was (paraphrasing): "I am