There is security in numbers. There's no sense in being insecure if others do not share our passion.
There is security in numbers. There's no sense in being insecure if others do not share our passion.
Last edited by stretch; Mon Apr 2nd, 2012 at 10:26 PM.
Actually I am from Toronto but moved to Vancouver about 3 years ago and let me tell you that in Vancouver they don't give a damn about the Raptors or the NBA, hell you can barley find any coverage of it in their local sport section which is always covers 4 pages of the freaking Canucks.Matt52 wrote:
The Blue Jays are more popular then the Raptors in BC, hell even their new soccer team the whitecaps is more popular then the Raptors.
Toronto does not reflect the rest of Canada.
As someone with similar experience I agree. Its very different outside toronto.
Why should there be any interest in the raptors over a local soccer team- whitecaps?
As for the blue jays. It might have to do with their recent success and a certain level of obsession among North Americans for baseball. The blue jays on their part have committed to holding camps across nation and cooperating with the local baseball league to spot and develop talent.
If we don't get local talent or local teams outside toronto in the NCAA/NBA there will be no interest among the public for basketball.
Because Toronto is the only team in Canada that plays in the NBA which by default makes them Canada's team. Plus the NBA is a much bigger/popular organization then MLS not to mention that the whitecaps only been around for less then 2 years.
However I feel that basketball in Vancouver died when the Vancouver Grizzlies died and there is a mixed jealousy with the success (lack of a better words) of the Raptors survival in the NBA. If the Vancouver Grizzlies were still around then I would agree that basketball would be of a great interest in this province.
I'm outside Toronto and Ontario. It is very different where I am. You should move, haha.
I figured I would put this here:
Anthony Bennett's official measurements from the Nike Hoop Summit.
6'7" (in shoes) 239lbs. 7'1" wing span. Looks like he will need to work on those perimeter skills if he want to make a serious run at the NBA. I know there have been players his size do well as a 4, he does have the long arms, but he better suits the 3 position.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...urements-3877/
I'm not debating people may play basketball where you live. I'm just saying, if you look at the composition of elite talent, generally the best players are coming from just a few areas of the country.
Look at the current Junior Men's National Team.
http://www.basketball.ca/junior-men-s15143
6 players from the GTA
2 from Ottawa/Gatineau
3 within a 2 hour drive of Vancouver
Of course the odds are that the bulk of the team (and talent) would come from the largest population densities, that is simple mathematics, but a province with less than a total of 1 million competes regularly at Nationals, and those teams have more than just metro area players. That sort of busts your theory of talent only coming from large metropolitan areas.
You use 1 team to back your theory, but the senior men's team in 2011 had 4 players from smaller cities of 100,000 or less.
The women's team had 3 players from communities under 40,000. The junior women had 5 members from small communities as well. So if you look at population distribution of the country, the smaller areas are producing more talent per capita than the largest metropolitan areas.
Yes, this tendency to take offense at whatever not-so-impartial foreign journalists write just helps reinforce the myth (or is reality?) Canadians have an inferiority complex.
Not specifically directed at you Matt, there are many similar posts throughout the year.
The vast majority of the people who came via the underground railroad eventually returned stateside to be reunited with their families and better weather. As much as we'd like to believe otherwise, Canada in the 1800's wasnt the welcoming multi-cultural place it is today as well. The vast majority are more recent immigrants. There is a reason we have Carribana and not Americanna.
It could also reinforce the myth (or reality?) that Americans have a superiority complex or are arrogant.
Take one read through any article or the comments that follow dealing with contraction in the NBA. Never mind the fact the Raptors are one of the more valuable and profitable teams in the NBA, most fans south of the 49th parallel are looking to remove or relocate the team. Why would this belief continue to be popular when even a sh!t franchise in Toronto is doing much better than the majority of the league including many playoff teams? Ignorance.
I definitely agree historically there is a inferiority complex among Canadians. In my opinion that has dwindled in the last few years. The current state of American affairs with bailout nation, foreign policy, the growth of government, and the continued growth of debt at all government levels in the US is hardly an enviable situation for the majority. The inferiority complex has been replaced with a pedestal complex, in my opinion, which is inappropriate in the other extreme.
He's right. When you sign up your kids to play sports, basketball is not on the top of most people's list, but the sport is growing. People who play a sport, usually watch it later in life.
Having one stepchild who graduated from the American public school system, I'd say it's closer to reality than myth based upon what she was taught in History and Civics classes.
Me, arrogant? No! Actually it's one of the things my wife loves about me. And being the God's Greater Gift to women too. But unfortunately for me, my cute neighbor does not know it yet and still have a neck free of collars. Sigh, can't always win.
Fans are not decision-makers so why even listen to their opinion about what is essentially a financial decision?
That's an interesting comment; I will certainly pay closer attention to what my siblings and friends say the next time I visit Ottawa.
Just to be sure we are on the same page, none of my comments were meant to be directed personally at you.
You know the ongoing dog collar comments are a little troubling - lol.
There are more than just fans clamouring for Toronto to get the contraction or relocation slip. 'Respected' American 'journalists' have also fell victim to this silly suggestion.
Lol, and you complained about me leaving out the s in Wayans, you're a weird.
Last edited by Matt52; Tue Apr 3rd, 2012 at 04:53 PM.
you also said brothers instead of bros lol. I not a weird
I actually took a word out of his post.
This conversation is going nowhere productive, gents. I think it is time to call it quits on it - unless some basketball relevancy is thrown back in to the mix. If you persist on discussing matters with one another, head to the private messages.
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