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    Default April 3 - Charlotte Bobcats - Dilemma Edition

    To tank or not to tank that is the question.

    Or is it to be professional or not be professional, maybe that is the question.

    Regardless of the question (or more importantly the answer) I hope the Raptors bring it 100% and let the chips fall where they may. The Raps have not beat the 'Cats this year.

    Monty Williams gave a really good quote that sums up the importance of the last 14 games for the Raptors players:

    “If you have guys who think these games don’t mean anything, those are not the guys we want going forward,’’ Williams said. “I’ve addressed it. It’s nothing new to our team. Trust me, we’ve seen it, and we’ve seen it here.

    “This is the time of the year where you find out who is playing for the right reasons and who isn’t playing for the right reasons. I’m not going to single guys out, but I know what I’m looking at. I’ve been in the league long enough.’’
    Williams was referring to players dogging it through injuries but the message is the same even if my implied context is slightly different.


    ESPN preview:

    The Toronto Raptors have a 10th opportunity this season to win back-to-back home games for the first time since 2010.

    Even a visit from the league-worst Charlotte Bobcats is no guarantee the Raptors can finally accomplish that feat.

    Toronto looks to avoid a seventh consecutive loss in this series -- and third this season -- Tuesday night when the Bobcats go for their first victory since their last meeting with the Raptors.

    Since winning Dec. 1 and 3, 2010, the Raptors (18-35) have gone 20-38 at Air Canada Centre, failing to win two in a row.

    The Raptors had great balance in Sunday's 99-92 home win over Washington, with eight players scoring at least eight points, but coach Dwane Casey needs to see a better overall defensive effort. Toronto's last four opponents are averaging 104.5 points on 50.2 percent shooting.

    "That's going to be our challenge as a staff, to keep tuned defensively the rest of the way and not lose what foundation we have," Casey said.

    The Bobcats (7-43) could stand in the way of that happening Tuesday.

    Charlotte is scoring a league-low 87.9 points per game on 41.6 percent shooting -- also worst in the NBA -- but coach Paul Silas' team has shot at least 50 percent and averaged 102.5 points in two wins over the Raptors this season.

    The Bobcats could use another effort like that after blowing an eight-point lead in the final two minutes of regulation in Saturday's 110-107 OT loss at Detroit.

    "We weren't really pushing it as fast as we were the first three quarters," forward Byron Mullens said after scoring 20 points and grabbing nine rebounds. "I think we were stuck on 80 (points) for a while and then they finally got it going, but it's something we learn from. We slowed the ball down. We were up -- we just got to keep our foot on the pedal."

    The Bobcats, losers of seven straight since a 107-103 home win over Toronto on March 17, will have to seriously pick up the pace this month to avoid posting the worst winning percentage in franchise history. The club went 18-64 during its 2004-05 inaugural season.

    Corey Maggette, the team leader with 37 points against the Raptors this season, will be unavailable Tuesday after suffering a strained right Achilles' in Friday's 99-88 loss to Denver.

    With Maggette out, swingman Reggie Williams should make a second consecutive start. Williams hit four 3-pointers and scored a season-best 22 points in a 98-91 win at Toronto on Feb. 17.

    DeMar DeRozan led the Raptors with 24 points in that contest as they dropped their third in a row at home against the Bobcats.

    Toronto's last victory in this series was 103-101 in Charlotte on March 29, 2010.

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    no worries guys forbes is out
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    I see your Maggette and raise you Forbes
























































































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    Wow, the house is FULL tonight!! ahahaa There can't be 10,000 there yet...

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    Some NICE dimes from JJ! Thats one of my favourite things about his game.
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    Debating if I want to win this or not but gotta say A.Grey, & JJ are playing fantastic.
    Espically James Johnson- he is just getting better and better at all aspects of his game- passing the ball, shooting, good decisions. Great stuff.

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    Quote RNsteve wrote: View Post
    Debating if I want to win this or not but gotta say A.Grey, & JJ are playing fantastic.
    I always want the win. Karma will pay us back accordingly.
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    Man watching Ed shoot jumpers is painful. He has terrible form: he jumps first and the shooting motion has no connection to the jumper, it's all arm strength. That's poor fundamentals from a guy with "pedigree"

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    Fuck

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    Lol, I'm all for pride wins at this point. At best we get the third worst record, chances are we get the 4th. Nothing to be done about it now

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    Quote minks77 wrote: View Post
    Lol, I'm all for pride wins at this point. At best we get the third worst record, chances are we get the 4th. Nothing to be done about it now
    I think we will be fifth or sixth. SAC has a tough schedule ahead, and we will be trying to fight CLE and NJN for the 5 and 6th. Hopefully we get the fourth, but it's not looking good.

    We have four games against teams under .500 left.

    Bucks, Pistons, Cleveland and the Nets. Two of which are at home. I think we have four wins in our future, might not be all against the under .500 teams, but I think we will be 23 wins or better at the end of the season.
    Last edited by saints91; Tue Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 PM.

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    That game was painful.

    You know it is bad when Matt and Jack are talking about the lack of 'flow'. In other words, the game was awful - but they can't come out and say that.

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    I was not impressed with Andre's game. He had 30 but 22 shots. The 3 rebound was bad like usual but, he let a no body(Mullens) have career night 14 rebounds. If your not going to rebound make sure your opponent doesn't get it at leats. His lucky were falling out of the range of T-Rob..
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    Mcadoo

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Mcadoo
    Very interesting but, I think he will go back to school.
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    I was not impressed with Andre's game. He had 30 but 22 shots. The 3 rebound was bad like usual but, he let a no body(Mullens) have career night 14 rebounds. If your not going to rebound make sure your opponent doesn't get it at leats. His lucky were falling out of the range of T-Rob..
    These type of comments drive me crazy! Do you really think it was a one on one game with these tow players all game? You do realize that Gray matched up with Mullens quite a bit, as did both Ed and Amir. I too would like to see more than 3 boards from Andrea, but don't put it all on him for having a guy grab 14 in a team game where Andrea started at the 4 and Mullens at the 5.

    For the record, 30 points on 22 shots is not bad.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
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    Mcadoo has Marvin Williams written all over him at this time. The only difference was Marvin Williams was 6th man on a championship team.

    I'm probably being way too superficial in this comparison but that is just my opinion of him.

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    Quote WJF wrote: View Post
    For the record, 30 points on 22 shots is not bad.
    Agreed, can't complain about 30 points on 22 shots (he shot 50%).
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    Quote minks77 wrote: View Post
    Lol, I'm all for pride wins at this point. At best we get the third worst record, chances are we get the 4th. Nothing to be done about it now
    Chances are slim we get 4th ... I wish.

    Bobcats, Hornets & Wizards will be below us - guaranteed. That would leave us at 4th.
    We are currently ahead of the Cavs and Nets, and tied with the Kings ...

    Sadly that's 6th or 7th right now ... seeing how the Cavs have lost 8 straight, i'd say it's tank time in Cleveland.

    6th or 7th could end up being Barnes or Beal, if Sullinger and/or Lamb jump up ... but lessens our chances of jumping into the top 3 big time!
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    Some notes of this awful game. I haven't watched a lot of games this year because, well, we suck. But I did manage to stay for the first 3 quarters before just being bored out of my mind and just leaving.

    - During the opening/intro it dawned on me that I can no longer relate to young people. From the loud obnoxious intro music, to the video of players standing around posing for the camera and a bunch of dunks, to the pyrotechnics that I shielded my eyes from. I can no longer be considered a "young" adult from a NBA culture point of view. I'm officially old.

    - Charlotte is a terrible team. It became quite apparent to me why this team has only 7 wins. This is a team with very little talent.

    - Kemba is not a shoot first point guard as everyone thinks. It's just that when he passes to his teammates, they don't score. He finds open teammates, but they just miss. Kemba could easily have had 15 assists tonight, but finished with just 7. He did have a sweet steal from Bargs, who was going up for a layup and somehow despite the ball being 3 feet above his head Kemba managed to knock it loose for a clean steal.

    - You know how Jose Calderon brings the ball down and runs plays? And when a play breaks down, they pass it back to Jose so he can try to run a different play? Charlotte doesn't do that. When the play breaks down (which is 90% of the time), it becomes every-man-for-himself. The point guard whether it's Augustin or Kemba will be lucky to the see the ball again after his initial pass. I'm not quite sure what Paul Silas is doing out there. They reminded me of the Leafs out there with their patented dump the ball towards the opponents net and hope something materializes from that.

    - Also, Charlotte doesn't set effective picks. Again I have to wonder what is Paul Silas doing? I know your team doesn't have a lot of good players, but the least you can do is coach.

    - Aaron Gray was a good pickup.

    - Who the hell is Byron Mullens? I guess my biggest hope for next year is that we can stop giving up career games to scrub NBA centers. Mullens looked like a white Tim Duncan last night, because we suck that much up the middle. 20 points, 14 rebounds, 2 blocks. I guess I'll take it Bargnani's 30 points but 3 rebounds? Really?

    - Invisible in the first half, DeRozan complained to refs as he kept getting blocked because of his nonchalant approach when within 3-5 feet of the basket. He found his mojo in the second half with jump shots but he's really got to go harder to the rack if he wants to be effective in there. He's way too timid for a guy with his athleticism. Go hard, take a hard foul if you have to, even if you get called for a charge, just show us something!

    - Kleiza was feeling it early, he nailed some 3s where he was already heading back on defense the minute the ball left his hands. But then he stopped feeling it.

    - I'm starting to have some doubts about Ed Davis. He's the big man version of DeMar DeRozan on this team. He's just not very assertive, and often has spurts of timidness around the basket like DeRozan. After watching Thomas Robinson of the Kansas Jayhawks, I've decided that having a big man without a meanstreak is kind of pointless nowadays. You need to be a bully out there, or just don't show up. Ed had 6 points and 7 rebounds and I only remember seeing 2 of those points and none of the rebounds.

    I've got to stop taking my wife to these types of games. She doesn't like basketball to begin with and these kinds of games aren't exactly helping me change her mind.
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