hahaha Davis does look creepy.thead wrote:
The unibrow seems like it will move if you stare at it long enough.
hahaha Davis does look creepy.
The unibrow seems like it will move if you stare at it long enough.
Are we actually drafting 2 players when we select Davis, one the 6'10" shot blocker and one the 6" lane intimidating unibrow.
I don't want to BROW beat this issue
I think most people are very excited about Valanciunas and I think he's done all he can to dispel any bias against Euro bigs. The question of whether he's a franchise centre is different cause there are so few of them (3 in the last 20 years) that it doesn't seem likely he's that good. As for JV and Bargs, Bargnani is 27. I don't see him playing 10 more years. Hopefully, we can find someone better to put next to JV.
Chicago won't move Mirotic. The sad thing for Raps fans is that the Bulls used that first rounder from the Johnson trade in a package to trade up and get Mirotic. Once again, Raptor management playing the short game: running as fast as they can to stay in the same place.
Well, after reading this, potentially, he can be a franchise player. I know, I know, europe bball is different from NBA bball, but still, this guy is only 20 and already been MVP 5 times!
LKL Champion (2010)
LKF Cup (2010)
3× LKL All-Star (2010, 2011, 2012)
2× LKL All-Star Game MVP (2011, 2012)
FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship MVP (2008)
European Under-18 All-Star Game MVP (2009)
FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship MVP (2010)
FIBA World Under-19 Championship MVP (2011)
Lithuania Basketball Player Of The Year (2011)
FIBA European Young Player of the Year (2011)
Eurocup Rising Star (2012)
I see Bargnani playing exactly ten more years. 8 of them at his highest level
a 15 year career is not out of the question for a non explosive - finesse player
In a few years you can finish that sentence with ... "which he has now shown he can do consistently in the NBA"
The only way to bag a classy lady is to give her two tickets to the gun show... and see if she likes the goods.
Ha. Aylmer. Never thought I'd see that town name dropped on this forum. Plus, the tractors would really slow the Gardiner worse then it already is for home games
LOL I like it
(Sorry for poor English
Franchise Center I'd say. We basically have 2 spots on lock(PF and C), 1 spot that is still in question(DeRizen), and 2 spots that are in need of an upgrade(PG and SF)
Wow.
Not to split hairs but he is not 20 until May 6th. Sort of makes his pursuits against grown men a little more impressive, in my opinion.
JV is going to be a beast, if all the hype is correct. Ive seen him play and he has such tenacity in his game, he is a great mix of skill, talent, height, length, motor, energy, aggressiveness, and smarts. Not to mention he is also still really really young. Ive heard hype about Hall-of-fame material. Id be really surprised and even disappointed if he is not at least a perennial all star
Ok, that doesn't mean it happens right out of the gate or in the first three seasons but there are a lot fans in here who have themselves convinced he's going to hit the ground running. If he doesn't, and I think he won't, then the backlash in here will be at ridiculously, humorous levels. When he gets here he will have to:
Build his body
Learn a new style of play
Learn a different culture
Learn how to play for a whole new set of teammates.
Learn how to communicate in a language he obviously is poor at.
There are many more challenges but people won't care about that. When he struggles the bust threads will run wild and the pressure will rise.
I agree, we do it with all our players, we hype hype hype, get into unrealistic expectations, then smear smear smear. (DD, Ed, Bargs, Turk, Bosh, J.O, Marion, etcetcetc) Im not worried about the smear campaign that will come, probably during a stretch of struggle for the rookie, because i am convinced his overall career will be above and beyond most (if not all) centers in the game right now (save Howard, obviously)
i think it will be easy for him to start because he will walk into amirs almost no touches and garbage points. i expect him to be able to at the least duplicate amirs numbers right out of the gate.
i dont think that is a stretch of what he is capable of. i also expect him to be in the running for rookie of the year. finally i expect him to get colangelo an extension and by extension casey. i think both of their futures are locked together.
toronto sports is like ancient rome. as long as the people are screaming and cheering the higher ups will not make changes. similar to new york with a small man syndrome.
Valanciunas plays and produces against MEN. He accomplishes against men, some of these men far more developed than some NBA players. His potential is there, he has the ability to produce from the get-go. I don't see him having totally large impacts, but minor impacts.
An impact starting center for the years to come? Yes.
Franchise player like a Lebron, Kobe, Duncan? I don't know. Too big of an outlook in my opinion for a guy I haven't seen yet play in the league.
He's raw, but more athletic and more skilled than Amir and Ed. His body length, quickness, footwork, jumping ability can easily put up the garbage points of Amir. Has a better BASIC post game than Amir and Ed. Defensively is Jonas' strength though, and I believe down the road he will be better than both.
I think the most likely scenario is he's eased into the lineup and averages 25MPG by the end of the season. Casey and Colangelo have both already mentioned this tough veteran big man they're going to target in the off-season. My thinking is that they're looking for that because JV is going to be limited at times. They're not throwing this kid to the wolves like the Raptors did with Bosh at age 19.
If he hits Amir's 2011/2012 numbers what does that even mean? Some people are talking perrenial all-star and hall of fame. Some guys are talking #2 in the league in the paint. Is 7 and 7 going to be enough in season one with talk like that? It's a little out of control in here.
And so did Bargnani. What's the point here?
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