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    Default Who's staying? Five and Rank

    Who do you think (opinion, not Fact) are most likely to still be here come next season?

    Who's your Top 5 mostly to stay, with the #1 name you think will definitely be here and #5 with a better chance than the remaining players on the roster?

    my #1 is Bargnani
    #2 is Demar
    #3 is JJ
    #4 is Ed
    #5 is Bayless

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    #1 Valanciunas....that is all
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    #1 - Valanciunas

    #2 - Bargnani (I just can't see BC trading him)

    #3 - Calderon (though he woudn't be this high on a list of guys making it through the entire season next year)

    #4 - Kleiza (with all the cap space the Raptors have, his contract is no longer needed to faciliate a big trade, nor do they need to amnesty him to make a trade/signing)

    #5 - J.Johnson (Casey's man-crush)

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    I'd think I'd rather see Amir here than Davis.

    And there's a part of me that thinks Gray has more potential with this team, than Bayless.
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    Valanciunas cannot 'still' be here.

    #1 Casey

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    Valanciunas cannot 'still' be here.

    #1 Casey
    hahahaha i was going to say nobody was following the rules, hahahaha

    Including you Soft! i said players! hahaha

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    Valanciunas cannot 'still' be here.

    #1 Casey
    He's under Raptors control, as much as any of the expiring contracts (ie: Gray, Magloire, Alabi, Bayless) or even Weems are.

    If I excluded Valanciunas, Amir would move into my top 5, mainly for the same reasons that Kleiza is (minimal demand for him from other teams, not worth the salary amount/length, sufficient cap space to not have to trade/amnesty him in order to make a deal).
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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    hahahaha i was going to say nobody was following the rules, hahahaha

    Including you Soft! i said players! hahaha
    Those damn rules; and I even had Colangelo at #2;

    1 James Johnson
    2 Linas Kleiza
    3 Ed Davis
    4 DeMar DeRozan
    5 Aaron Gray

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    1. Bargnani - (unless we get lottery luck for Anthony Davis)
    2. Kleiza - (Lithuanian security blanket for Big V)
    3. JJ - (MIP of the team, brings what Casey wants)
    4. Jose - (No PG's high in the draft; so unless it's Nash, it's Jose)
    5. Demar (even if we draft another SG, Demar can play it out)

    Have to stay away from Ed and Amir, because 1 will likely be gone - and it's unclear what way they'll go.

    Gray is on the list of "People I really hope come back".
    Forbes is very welcome - but could easily be squeezed out if we grab a G in the draft, plus keep Demar.
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    My top 5 that are most likely to stay are as follows:

    1. Bargnani (Even if we get AD, I think they keep him and trade ED or Amir)
    2. JJ (Again, even if we draft a wing I'd expect them to keep him around based on his improved play this year)\
    3. Demar (I just can't get behind giving up on him yet)
    4. Jose (Because he is a very good, if unspectacular, point guard)
    5. ED/Amir (I'm going to cheat and say that one of them will stay, but I don't know which.)

    You can count me among the camp of trying to bring in Steve Nash this summer, because I truly think that the raptors as they are now, plus JV and Nash could be a very surprising team to a lot of people.

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    Only one list with Bayless on it.. I love where your guys heads are at, gives me hope!

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    #1 - Valanciunas
    #2 - Bargnani
    #3 - Calderon
    #4- Demar
    #5 - J.Johnson

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    #1 - Derozan
    #2 - Bargnani
    #3 - Kleiza
    #4 - J Johnson
    #5 - Ed Davis

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    #1: Bargnani
    #2: Derozan
    #3: JJ
    #4: Jose
    #5: LK

    Wanted to put Ed/Amir at the #5.. but I think LK will stay for JV related reasons.

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    Bargs
    DeMar
    JJ
    Kleiza
    Grown man calderon

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    Honestly, of the current roster, I don't care who is here next year. Anyone or any asset or any combination who can return legit starting talent is fair game. Also, not knowing the # draft pick makes it tough to make a confident guess.

    Top 5 most likely to be back from current roster in my opinion:

    1) Bargnani
    2) Kleiza
    3) JJ
    4) Amir
    5) Gray

    Or is that who I hope returns? I'm struggling with my objectivity here.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Honestly, of the current roster, I don't care who is here next year.
    In case anyone was wondering, this is the correct response.

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    I'm first going to say that our roster is flawed as hell, and while we have good pieces, we don't have a franchise player or anyone who can dominate the game for stretches. Bargs was doing that at times before getting injured, and it looks like his conditioning and rhythm took a big enough hit for the rest of his season to be in the crapper.

    1) Bargnani: These games aside since his return from injury, we know he can score, and we know no one else on our team can. Keeping him will also make Jonas' transition easier, giving him more space to get comfortable.
    2) Jose: Young teams need good PGs. I don't want to watch a PG develop(unless it's a sure thing), and it slows the development of guys like Jonas, or anybody else we've got. If we get a young guy, Jose is a good guy to have until he's ready, if we don't, Jose is solid.
    3)Ed: I think in the end Ed may win out over Amir. It's really hard to get value back and in this season, you won't get a high pick since it's loaded with forwards. Ed is smarter, brings many similar skills, is younger and frankly brings more refined tools to the game. Amir just plays all out, but he's barely improved in skill and IQ over the years. Give Ed the chance to see if he can develop his game at all.
    4)JJ: Seems like he fits into what Casey wants. Has shown enough to think he might have another year or two of growth, even if limited. Maybe he won't be here long term, or even at the end of next year, but I feel like it's pretty safe to say he'll be around when training camp rolls around.
    5)....Shit, coming up with 4 is hard enough. I'll say Demar, because he's still young and definitely has enough athleticism and talent to improve.

    Note: Most people might put Gray up there. And he might be a pretty safe bet. He's been ok for us and might be a good guy to have in order to ease JV in. Not sure it's that difficult to replace him though so I'm sure he won't be a priority.
    I don't think anyone on the roster is totally safe, and the closest thing is Bargs. If Casey and BC believe in pieces they have now, I think they like Bargs and hope JV fits in right next to him. I think Ed, Demar, Amir, Bayless, JJ and Kleiza are all movable to BC since none have shown to be exceptional, but for Ed, Demar and JJ the deal would have to be pretty sweet given their cheap contracts. I put Jose so high just because the only way I see BC giving him up before his deal expires is if he thinks he has a real shot to get Deron Williams or something.

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    To guess what will happen months from now is a little difficult without knowing a lot of things like draft position, etc.. I think a better question would be who is the one Raptor you would like to remain a Raptor at the start of next year.

    My top 5 guesses as to who Bryan will keep are:

    #1 Bargnani (he's stuck with him for 6 years, why not a 7th?)
    #2 Demar (still on rookie contract, and has gotten a tonne of development time - aka Bargnani 2.0)
    #3 Kleiza (for JV's development - although I think that's not required - check what Utah did with Okur)
    #4 Forbes (has another year on his contract and is cheap)
    #5 Calderon (did not give up on him during the season - not too many PG studs in draft - he's coming back)

    Now if I had to pick one guy I'd like to see come back it would probably be Amir. I think he's a good big to have coming off the bench - and a spot he'd have no problem playing.

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    1 = Andrea Bargnani (Anthony Davis is most appreciated.)
    2 = Demar Derozan (Too much potential to give up on.)
    3 = James Johnson (Our most important player, Casey's go-to guy defensively, good potential)
    4 = Jose Calderon (With the elite names of PURE point guards in the game, one of the best at finding teammates)
    5 = Linas Kleiza (I would totally trade him if it wasn't for Valanciunas coming in.)

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