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    Default Mark Spears suggested that Steve Nash should consider TORONTO

    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player...s_NBA/28837170

    Jonas would need a great pick & roll partner... so maybe...

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    Im torn on this.. id like to see nash as a Raptor.. Id also like to see him win a title.. Im sure he feels the same

    Jose is a good pick & roll guy.. so even if we do nothing the raps will be ok in that regard

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    Yeah..I'll pass on Nash. As good as he is, he never wanted to play here at his prime, kinda like magloire. Plus, need a young pg to take over once Jose is done. Nota guy who wants to have a token few years in his homeland as a nod of the head. I would rather not be an epilogue to his career.

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    I feel Nash won't be worth the money by the time the team is ready to make a real run. Much better finding a PG at least 27years or under to grow with the team.

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    nash for 3 years would be great. we are ready for big time after next year. next year is playoffs taste tester time.

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    Quote Jaworski wrote: View Post
    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player...s_NBA/28837170

    Jonas would need a great pick & roll partner... so maybe...

    Whats wrong with Jose?

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    If he wants to, why not? not like he'll be signing a long term, risky contract...even at 10 mill for the next 2 years would be fine the raps can preserve space for that long

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    If we win the lottery and can team Jonas up with Anthony Davis, then yes. That team (including whatever wing player we could get for Bargnani) would knock some heads.

    Other than that its probably not a good fit for either.

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miam...eat-free-agent


    "I'm not coming back to the Suns if there isn't improvement," Nash told "The Dan Patrick Show".

    Nash explained he's expecting the Suns to try to make those improvements, but that he's looking forward to becoming a free agent and deciding where to continue his career.

    The hypothetical of LeBron James asking Nash to join up in Miami for one last push at a championship was brought up.

    "I would listen," Nash said. "He's phenomenal. I love what they're doing there. A lot of people don't like them because they put all that talent there. But they're professional, they play hard, they play together. Their coaching staff has done a great job, so I have a tremendous amount of respect for them.

    "I would definitely listen."

    It shouldn't surprise anyone the 38-year-old point guard without a world championship might be enticed by the idea of joining a contender that has what many consider a relative hole at the point guard slot.

    Keeping the Heat in the conversation could be used as leverage in negotiations with other teams. But joining the Heat would mean that Nash would be leaving millions of dollars on the table.

    The Heat won't have any salary-cap space next summer, so Nash would have to settle for the mid-level exception if he wanted to join the club.

    Plenty of teams, including the Suns, could offer much more money than the Heat.

    But for someone who has earned about $120 million during his career, sacrificing some money for winning a title might be palatable to Nash.

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    Any thoughts on this? I personally think he'd set this team up very well and would end up averaging 8ppg, along with 13 apg. I mean, if an Amar'e-Nash pick and roll seemed unstoppable, can you imagine a LeBron-Nash pick and roll? Nash-Wade-James, would you consider this the greatest backcourt of all time?

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    I don't think it's a good fit at all. Both Nash and Lebron need to dominate the ball to be effective, especially Nash. Lebron and co. could say "we'll let you do your thing!" all they want but I don't see it.

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    I don't think it's a good fit at all. Both Nash and Lebron need to dominate the ball to be effective, especially Nash. Lebron and co. could say "we'll let you do your thing!" all they want but I don't see it.
    He's going to make LeBron's life a whole lot easier since LeBron is the primary scorer, primary ball-handler, and primary passer. If Nash goes to the Heat, he'll be the primary ball-handler and primary passer, leaving LeBron to score, rebound, and defend.

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    I don't think it's a good fit at all. Both Nash and Lebron need to dominate the ball to be effective, especially Nash. Lebron and co. could say "we'll let you do your thing!" all they want but I don't see it.
    i can see how nash needs to dominate the ball. but, not in the way lebron does.

    plus, nash gets the ball out of his hands quicker or at least more enjoyment with passing. although, his numbers would see a drop of significance.

    he's going to dallas if they make any offer towards him. there is no doubt in my mind. thaf a cuban, nowitzki, nash reunion is going to happen.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    i can see how nash needs to dominate the ball. but, not in the way lebron does.

    plus, nash gets the ball out of his hands quicker or at least more enjoyment with passing. although, his numbers would see a drop of significance.

    he's going to dallas if they make any offer towards him. there is no doubt in my mind. thaf a cuban, nowitzki, nash reunion is going to happen.
    Im not sure about him going to Dallas because i read up somewhere that Cuban is going to make a real push to sign D-Will and if he goes theren then no Nash in Dallas

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    Im not sure about him going to Dallas because i read up somewhere that Cuban is going to make a real push to sign D-Will and if he goes theren then no Nash in Dallas
    +1 i think that dwill will end up in dallas as well.

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    Nash can start thinking post-career after he wins a championship. I think Nash should go to a contender like Miami, win a championship with Joel "the greatest undersized centre of all-time" Anthony and then worry about post career. Coming to Toronto for next year is a waste of a healthy back.

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    Quote c_bcm wrote: View Post
    Yeah..I'll pass on Nash. As good as he is, he never wanted to play here at his prime, kinda like magloire. Plus, need a young pg to take over once Jose is done. Nota guy who wants to have a token few years in his homeland as a nod of the head. I would rather not be an epilogue to his career.
    Good point if he didnt want to come in his prime then whats the point in having him now? What we need is a young pg moving forward with the youth that we allready have.

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    Quote KaioKev wrote: View Post
    Nash can start thinking post-career after he wins a championship. I think Nash should go to a contender like Miami, win a championship with Joel "the greatest undersized centre of all-time" Anthony and then worry about post career. Coming to Toronto for next year is a waste of a healthy back.
    id rather see nash go to the lakers then miami... i hope bosh & company never win a title..

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    Nash is really an interesting option. Everyone just assumes because he's old that if he leaves PHX it'll be for MIA or another contender (Miami being the obvious choice since PG is a crapshoot for them). But Nash has proven time and time again that he stands out from other stars. He's a very grounded, intelligent person. I think whatever he decides to do, he'll know it's the best decision for him. I'm not sure he'll think being on Miami for a year or two is the best way to finish his career, especially if they win it this year. What would they need him for? I think Nash is a sports junkie, and won't go somewhere just to win. He will want to play minutes and have a large role. Yeah he's old, but the way he looks and the way he plays, he could easily last another 2 years without a major injury (knock on wood). We always talk about how much upside our team has, well I think a player like Nash will look at that. I don't know if he'll come here, but I'm sure he'd love playing with Jonas, Bargs, Demar, whoever else we draft this year, and possibly decent role players (Ed/Amir, JJ, Kleiza, Gray). Really we always talk about what we're missing. Well Nash for 2-3 years gives us a stopgap and an upgrade over Jose. It gives him the chance to play a large role and mentor a young team that would need his presence. I think this will be a huge factor for Nash if he still wants a role similar to what he's got, and not a lot of teams really offer it. Off the top of my head, the best fit I could think of is Indiana...
    I think that Nash will be less predictable than people think, and he always has been. He was on a good Dallas team when Phoenix offered him a huge contract that Cuban laughed at, so he walked. People have expected him to ask for a trade for what...2?3 years now? And he just keeps playing well in PHX, and mentors their team, which frankly sucks balls in terms of talent/upside. They have a bunch of role players that he keeps leading to an at least respectable level. Again, I think he might look at a young but growing roster like ours, or Indiana's, or a roster that needs his leadership, like in NY, or a team like Portland (not too far from his hometown, too).
    All this just to say given Nash's character, it won't just be about 'winning'. When you're this good at his age, you assume you will help any team get better and so while the roster is important, I don't think the options will only be the top 2-3 teams in each conference (which is problematic in the West, especially). And while he wants to win a title, he won't let it decide where he goes. I mean, think of a team like Indy with West, Hibbert, Granger and George lined up next to Nash, and I think they could beat anybody in a series, even maybe for a championship(especially with decent pieces like Hill and Hansbrough off the bench).
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    Quote bounty wrote: View Post
    Whats wrong with Jose?
    Nothing is wrong with Jose; but Nash scores better, shoots at a better FG, FT and 3Pt % and drops more dimes. And while Jose is good at pick and rolls, Nash is fantastic.
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    I don't think it's a good fit at all. Both Nash and Lebron need to dominate the ball to be effective, especially Nash. Lebron and co. could say "we'll let you do your thing!" all they want but I don't see it.
    Lets not forget this team has a strong defensive identity which is not Nash's strong point. I think a team he'd fit in well with the Nuggets.
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