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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I do find it comical.

    The guy is taking 17 shots per game, shooting just 40%. He is taking over 7 three's a game, hitting under 2, and shooting 23%. His turnovers are 3 per game. Unlike the phenomena that was Jeremy Lin, he is not even helping the Cavs win (which is really pissing me off! Come on Cavs, quit tanking! Ummmmm. Pot, Kettle. Kettle, Pot).

    Ugh.

    Come on people.

    The only positive I can spin for him is he gets to the line 5 times again and hits 92%.
    Lets go head to head with Andrea Bargnani's career year for you to appreciate Hudson's contributions.

    Andrea vs Hudson
    18 shots/ game shooting 45% as a 7-footer vs hudson's 6-3 with 14shots/game at 40%
    3 turnovers/game for both
    4 threes/game at 35% vs 6 three's a game at 30%
    5.2 rebounds/game vs 4.4 rebounds/game
    1.8 assists/ game vs 4 assists/ game
    10million/ year against hudson's 500,000/ year.

    edit : this is not a dig on bargnani. But we have to give it to a fringe player who is working hard in his second chance. Same goes for Alan Anderson.
    Last edited by draftedraptor; Thu Apr 12th, 2012 at 09:31 PM.

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    Quote draftedraptor wrote: View Post
    Lets go head to head with Andrea Bargnani's career year for you to appreciate Hudson's contributions.

    Andrea vs Hudson
    18 shots/ game shooting 45% as a 7-footer vs hudson's 6-3 with 14shots/game at 40%
    3 turnovers/game for both
    4 threes/game at 35% vs 6 three's a game at 30%
    5.2 rebounds/game vs 4.4 rebounds/game
    1.8 assists/ game vs 4 assists/ game
    10million/ year against hudson's 500,000/ year.

    edit : this is not a dig on bargnani. But we have to give it to a fringe player who is working hard in his second chance. Same goes for Alan Anderson.
    Take out Bargnani's 9 games back after injury.

    Consider the match up nightmare Bargnani is.

    Consider the Raptors performance with and without Bargnani in the lineup.

    I recall Sundiata Gaines having some respectable numbers with Utah, Toronto, and New Jersey last year. What has he done this year?

    Anyone in the NBA has talent. Anyone in the NBA can get hot at any time. Anyone in the NBA could be really effective until the scouting report comes out.

    In my opinion, this is some superficial thinking at best. Every year a 10-day amazes. A big part of that is "10 days".

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    I don't understand where all you people are coming from! Toronto is trying to find a backup PG so they bring in 10 contracts that being Ben Uzoh and Justin Dentmon; so tell me so far has any of these 2 guys stood out and said sign me to a contract for next year at all? Now you look at Lester Hudson and what he has done with his 10 day contracts stands out a lot more and says sign me! You can only judge with what they all do on the court and what I have seen with Lester over Ben and Justin I would say Lester is a has a better chance of being signed then either of the Toronto PG's. Remember we are looking especially for a backup PG. Lester is putting up good numbers in comparison to Ben and Justin!!

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    Quote badbob wrote: View Post
    I don't understand where all you people are coming from! Toronto is trying to find a backup PG so they bring in 10 contracts that being Ben Uzoh and Justin Dentmon; so tell me so far has any of these 2 guys stood out and said sign me to a contract for next year at all? Now you look at Lester Hudson and what he has done with his 10 day contracts stands out a lot more and says sign me! You can only judge with what they all do on the court and what I have seen with Lester over Ben and Justin I would say Lester is a has a better chance of being signed then either of the Toronto PG's. Remember we are looking especially for a backup PG. Lester is putting up good numbers in comparison to Ben and Justin!!
    I hope the backup PG next year is much better than Uzoh, Dentmon, or Hudson. If anyone of those guys is the backup PG, we are in for another painful year.

    Their starting PG is injured and their backup was traded. Hudson is putting up big numbers as a volume shooter for a PG desperate, crap team in meaningless games. It is better than not putting up the numbers. If he was helping Cleveland win, I might have a different perspective but he is not.

    The issue I have here is raising the expectations of Raptor fans and raising the talent level on the Raptors roster. None of these guys do that. At the absolute best they are 13th, 14th, or 15th non-guaranteed contract roster filler.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I hope the backup PG next year is much better than Uzoh, Dentmon, or Hudson. If anyone of those guys is the backup PG, we are in for another painful year.

    Their starting PG is injured and their backup was traded. Hudson is putting up big numbers as a volume shooter for a PG desperate, crap team in meaningless games. It is better than not putting up the numbers. If he was helping Cleveland win, I might have a different perspective but he is not.

    The issue I have here is raising the expectations of Raptor fans and raising the talent level on the Raptors roster. None of these guys do that. At the absolute best they are 13th, 14th, or 15th non-guaranteed contract roster filler.
    Thank you for injecting some clarity and sanity to this discussion. Its really unfortunate that we fans have been reduced to the point of debating the merits of 10-dayers. What a shame.

    There is no reason to sign any one of these 10 day contract guys. I have a feeling that BC brought them in, not only because we need bodies (due to injuries), but also to make our current roster guys have something to fight for this season...their starting position and future jobs. A guy who is desperate to show management that he is worth signing the rest of the year and into next season is competing on an entirely different level than a guy with a 2-3 year contract who has been with the team through the entire season. This competition will show BC et al whether guys like JJ are worth keeping....can he beat out Anderson for minutes at the end of the year? Or does he fold?

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    Is this thread closed yet?
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    What did Lester Hudson do once he was released by Cleveland?

    He joined Memphis where he suited up for 4 regular season games. In those games:

    Game 1 vs. Charlotte: he did not play

    Game 2 vs. Portland: 5 minutes, 0 points (0-3), 1 turnover

    Game 3 vs. Cleveland: 12 minutes, 9 points (3-6 fg, 1-3 3pt, 2-3 ft), 1 assist

    Game 4 vs. Orlando: 3 minutes, 0 points (0-2), 1 turnover

    Playoffs:

    He did not play for a team in desperate need of a backup PG.



    Whenever anyone gets hot and bothered by another team's (or our own) late season 10-day contract performer - especially on a bad team! - remember Lester Hudson.

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    Ten day contracts are typically issued mid to the end of the season after teams are sure on what they already have on their roster. If they invited this guy to camp and/or join the summer league team I would have no problem with that. If he earns the respect of the coaches and GM and if there is a vacant roster spot then he would be a logical choice to sign to some sort of non-guaranteed deal at that point.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Ten day contracts are typically issued mid to the end of the season after teams are sure on what they already have on their roster. If they invited this guy to camp and/or join the summer league team I would have no problem with that. If he earns the respect of the coaches and GM and if there is a vacant roster spot then he would be a logical choice to sign to some sort of non-guaranteed deal at that point.
    I agree with that but it was not the point.

    There were a number of people ready to chastise Colangelo for not signing him and promoting him as a candidate for back up PG.

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    Just trying to bring some logic to the table in hopes that people would think things through more before tossing Colangelo under the bus.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Just trying to bring some logic to the table in hopes that people would think things through more before tossing Colangelo under the bus.
    Then we are saying the same thing... differently.

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    Yeah, my first post wasn't directed at yours. I was making a general statement.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Yeah, my first post wasn't directed at yours. I was making a general statement.
    There I go again thinking I'm centre of the Republic - lol.

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    You're only off-center a little.

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    god would you two get a room
    @jerboat

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    god would you two get a room
    lol

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    god would you two get a room

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Whenever anyone gets hot and bothered by another team's (or our own) late season 10-day contract performer - especially on a bad team! - remember Lester Hudson.
    In the end, Lester Hudson sucked more than Donald Sloan, the other point guard Cleveland picked up this year.

    Ramon Sessions had more than his shares of detractors on RealCavsFans but I miss him because I believe he is one of the top backup point guards. The second unit sucked after he was traded and even more so after TT was inserted in the starting lineup.

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