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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Since when is changing the culture winning games? we turned from the worst defensive team to above average that is a great accomplishment in just one season especially a lockout shortened season. And btw Jay Triano had CB4, Hedo Turkuglu, a healthy Jose Calderon and a decent bench and still couldn't make the playoffs. I don't give 2 shits if they were 5th "At one point" that doesn't mean crap if he couldn't get the team to maintain that and play some D. And if bosh did make that tip it wouldn't change my opinion of JT they would still only be the 8th seed and probably would have been wiped out in the first round. Dwane casey has a bunch of unproven youngsters, D leaguers, and Jose, DeMar and Bargs playing top tier ball against the likes of the celtics and you say he hasn't done anything. You even admitted to watching no games this season so you don't have a right to judge casey or this team if you haven't even seen them play a full game. Thats like me writing a review on a movie i never saw
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    Jay had a much more talented team last year and of course the year before when we had playoff expectations, and compare the teams now. Minus the fact it's a shortened season, we are a better team IMO. Sure, record says we've won less, but like I said, shortened season..

    Somebody find me a stat about how many times the Raptors have lost double digits, I swear it's probably only been a handful of games unlike last season.

    We've transformed from 26th to 14th best in defense. That's with Rasual Butler in our starting lineup half the time as well....
    We've been able to compete in almost every single game this season, just never had the talent to "bump" us up one, and we actually tied the season series with the Celtics. It's been a while since we've been able to actually compete with that stupid, dick faced team. I hate the Celtics other than Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo.

    I'm quite happy where we stand as a team moving forward. With a handful of talent coming through draft, cap flexibility to make moves free agency, some good trade chips, a great coaching staff, we are in the best of circumstances in terms of the future.

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    Cap Space is just that... space.

    If were rebuilding nobody wants to come here and if were rebuilding we don't want anybody here.

    Know what I'm sayin?

    Getting excited at this point in the rebuild is just setting yourself up for dissapointment.

    I have low expectations right now. But, by the start of tonext season I expect playoffs.

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    Quote theycallmeZZ wrote: View Post
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    So many posts LBF, but no reaction to this one?

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    So many posts LBF, but no reaction to this one?
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    I can't take this guy seriously anymore.

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    With cap space, 2 exciting rookies coming into the fold and being middle of the pack in attendance despite not being to the playoffs in 4 season, I think the notion of this franchise being in trouble is the furthest thing from the truth.

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    Title of the Thread is "Is This Franchise in Trouble?"

    Clearly. Can't even lose to play-off teams. Can't pick three players out of three D-League without finding potential All-Stars.
    Can't find a one year, Team Sitter for a coach, who will take the $800K and tell his guys to relax...no sense getting hurt in a lost season.

    Now they have to re-up the D-leaguers, then fight off other teams who will be throwing money at them. After Coach's run this year, they have to deal with a feeding-frenzy media mob who's expectations are though the roof and will be expecting second round at least. At least they don't have to fight the urge to beat play-off contenders any more.

    Yeah, this franchise is in trouble.

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    Just to clarify this wasn't my opinion.

    I can't remember who said it. It was some radio host who said this franchise is in trouble.

    As I mentioned before Jack Armstrong was on PTS and said ... I can't remember what he said but I paraphrased it on the first page.

    These things got stuck in my head and thus this thread was created.

    Maybe, I came off a little strong. But, I'm not going to apologize for expressing my views.

    Not everyone was satisfied with the team this year.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    I can't take this guy seriously anymore.
    Alright, i'll bite how would you respond to this:

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    The franchise isn't In trouble, but attendance is horrendous... I have tfc season tickets, and have been trading them for raps tickets... Because, I'd just rather basketball, but can only afford footie seasons...

    I see more empty seats at the ACC than you would at Jilly's on a Tuesday afternoon

    Last week I counted almost thirty empty seats in a row

    They aren't in trouble though... I'm sure those seats are "sold".. Just not used

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    I am not sure if it's a sign of a franchise in trouble but the people over at the onion.com were poking fun at the Raptors and their losing ways on Friday the 13th.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/tor...ck-10-m,27916/

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    Alright, i'll bite how would you respond to this:

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    Just watch this post.

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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    I am not sure if it's a sign of a franchise in trouble but the people over at the onion.com were poking fun at the Raptors and their losing ways on Friday the 13th.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/tor...ck-10-m,27916/
    I guess when Charlotte wins 2 of their 7 total wins versus Toronto this year, that leaves the Raptors the brunt of worst team in the league talk. I'm not sure, I'm just trying to come to a logical conclusion.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    There's been grumblings that this franchise is in trouble, not deep. But, attendance has sunken(as to be expected with a rebuild), there is a general feeling of just... while actually that's the thing there is no feeling, let's say the majority of fans/people outside this website there is a general numbness.

    To me and I think some will agree, words to describe the atmosphere around this team are lack of excitement, dullness, mysterious, etc.

    In general the franchise is not healthy, Toronto fans are just so hopeful for a winner that everyone has hopped off the raptors band waggon and hopped on the jays. If baseball season more severely overlapped basketball season this team would probably have seen a severe drop in attendance and be in some serious trouble.

    The only thing this team has right now is hope and that's starting to wear thin with Toronto fans. There hasn't really been a whole lot of excitement around this team this year. I mean they aren't going to make the playoffs, aren't likely to get the first pick.

    Last years top pick isn't even with the team. There isn't really a top face or public figure on the team. I mean Bargnani is their top player. He's been playing well, but, he doesn't speak the best english and he's not really been put on a pedestal like a Stoudamire, Carter, Bosh, or even Turkoglu when he was here.

    This is probably the worst year of hype like the team hasn't been covered nearly as much in the local media... the publicity is way down this year then I think it ever has been before.

    Maybe this is just me, but, I used to consider myself a die hard fan and this year I have found myself with little interest or care of basically everything to do with the team this year.

    There is nothing to latch onto... for this year at least and if this team doesn't do something of more than just slight significance this offseason. The future is not looking bright.

    Personally, I hope they get a star in this draft and Valanciunas has a solid rookie campaign. To restore some faith around this team and at least start uprising.

    Thoughts?
    Did your significant other turn you down this weekend? You appear to be in a funk.

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    this franchise is not in Sacramento trouble

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    I see more empty seats at the ACC than you would at Jilly's on a Tuesday afternoon

    You'd be surprised at the robust mid day attendance at the "greatest part in town."

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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    I am not sure if it's a sign of a franchise in trouble but the people over at the onion.com were poking fun at the Raptors and their losing ways on Friday the 13th.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/tor...ck-10-m,27916/
    Ha Ha. Boston fans were poking fun at the Raptors on their fan forum. Man was that hilarious when the Raps got up by 17 in the third.

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    Quote minks77 wrote: View Post
    You'd be surprised at the robust mid day attendance at the "greatest part in town."
    I actually haven't been there in a couple years, but I remember it being sparsely attended even on weekends..

    are the two older dancers that look like the gammorean guards from return of the Jedi still there?

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    Quote Hugmenot wrote: View Post
    Did your significant other turn you down this weekend? You appear to be in a funk.
    No, I just have a shitty pillow.

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    I actually haven't been there in a couple years, but I remember it being sparsely attended even on weekends..

    are the two older dancers that look like the gammorean guards from return of the Jedi still there?
    You've experienced nothing. I live in fucking Hamilton. In Central hamilton dudes look like sloth from the goonies and all the girls are crack whores.

    The strippers are alright, but, I mean they're prolly getting extra curricular with sloth.

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