If the Raptors were considering drafting Lillard, I'd rather see them trade the pick outright to Philly for Holiday.
Holiday is one month younger and NBA proven. He still has a long way to go to reach his potential.
Lillard reminds me of Charlie Jenkins and Reggie Jackson. Great college numbers but they were seniors as is Lillard (injury gave him a 2nd sophomore season). There doesn't seem to be anything that sets Lillard apart as a prospective top draft pick. In the year of no point guards, his value is artificially inflated.
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I don't know why Philly would give him up either. While I think Holiday is a really good, defensive PG I don't see him as a Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook.
The Sixers are built for mediocrity as currently assembled. You have to give a little to get a little. Holiday might be the piece they have to give to create financial flexibility and obtain more overall talent and depth.
Trading straight up for Holliday, or another young PG (maybe Bledsoe? any other suggestions?), would be a great idea. I think both those 2 guys would fit Casey's system and are closer to real PGs than fake ones. Neither may be a star in the making, but I've seen them both run their teams effectively and play great D, and I'll take that.
The other option is using the pick in tandem with other assets if we drop...We have so many guys who could easily be gone depending on how the draft shapes up, and given the team's flexibility, we should know a lot early in the draft/FA period if they make a big splash. Guys like Ed, Amir, Linas, JJ, JB...Really just about anybody. I think they'll hang on to a fair amount of pieces from this year, but probably only Bargs is untouchable, and probably only to see if he comes back strong next year and fits next to Jonas.
Really I don't see how we could drop anyway. I think the lowest we could be slotted at is 8th(quickly looking at standings)...and that leaves the 10th pick as our worst case I think? Lillard looks like he might be a reach there. Marshall too. The top 3 wings will probably be gone (MKG, Beal, Barnes), and we don't want any of the bigs who'll be available, in all likelihood. I really don't see how BC keeps this pick if we drop, and we aren't surprisingly impressed by someone else in the workouts (maybe Rivers or Lamb jumps up the ladder a bit, who knows). I also have a hard time seeing SAC and NOH win their last 3 games each...so I think 5th slot might be our best case, which actually is not too bad, although it would be nice if one of those teams finishes strong(I also have no clue what happens with ties for lottery slots).
didn't Steph curry play in a division with not much competition?
when did i say anything about Lillard? I'm just askin
When I think of Holiday, all I see is him getting owned by D12 last season.
dumbest play of his short career so far, was him trying to out rebound D12.
who cares? everyone gets dunked on. So you don't want Holiday cause he got dunked on by D12? thats the stupidest reason one could ever have
Last edited by e2thed; Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 PM.
Once again I'd rather keep Jerryd Bayless but, what if he want too much money? Damian Lillard would come in and fill in that scoring punch off the bench at a cheaper cost than Bayless and Dragic.
Last edited by Chr1s1anL; Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 01:58 PM.
My opinion on Lillard could change when workouts transpire (but I doubt it). You're right that he's got good work ethic and that he can shoot - both things going for him, but we're not looking for a shoot-first PG.
You know how stongly opposed I am to having this team choosing Lillard? I would seriously consider following some other team if it happens. That goes for Perry Jones too.
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