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Thread: Jose Watch 2012: Colangelo hints Jose will not be amnestied (#46)

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    He doesn't fit the definition whether it's a little or a lot.

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    I hope Jose is a Raptor lifer ... he is already the best Raptor PG ever, judged on time wearing the dino - and is a class act. If he could start another year or two and transition into a leadership and stability role as a back-up ... why not?
    The only way to bag a classy lady is to give her two tickets to the gun show... and see if she likes the goods.

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    He doesn't fit the definition whether it's a little or a lot.
    Well then whether it's a little or a lot, this is a mislabelled thread, and I'd like to propose that Nate Huffman qualifies as a Toronto lifer. Sure it's only 7 games, and the team tried to screw him out of his money, resulting in a lawsuit. So while there is clearly no desire for either him or the team to recognize it, he played his entire NBA career in Toronto, and is thus by your technical definition, a "lifer". =P

    Clearly I'm kidding with this, but seriously, I understand the technicality, but lets say we keep Jose until his final year, and then trade him because we know he's done, or he wants to go somewhere else(maybe we'd be bad again by then, and since Jose's game is not very athletic to begin with, he may still be useful as a 2nd or 3rd PG), and he's traded away for 40-50 games...would you then disqualify him as a lifer? I think there needs to be some flexibility. If your definition is very rigid, I'd say I doubt Jose will be a lifer, and these days it's usually just franchise guys like Duncan, Kobe, etc...who can be and usually choose to be. And even some of those calibre players just choose to go elsewhere.

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    Sorry, I think I dissed PJ Tucker, who played a whole 17 games for us before washing out of the league and going to Europe.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Well then whether it's a little or a lot, this is a mislabelled thread, and I'd like to propose that Nate Huffman qualifies as a Toronto lifer. Sure it's only 7 games, and the team tried to screw him out of his money, resulting in a lawsuit. So while there is clearly no desire for either him or the team to recognize it, he played his entire NBA career in Toronto, and is thus by your technical definition, a "lifer". =P

    Clearly I'm kidding with this, but seriously, I understand the technicality, but lets say we keep Jose until his final year, and then trade him because we know he's done, or he wants to go somewhere else(maybe we'd be bad again by then, and since Jose's game is not very athletic to begin with, he may still be useful as a 2nd or 3rd PG), and he's traded away for 40-50 games...would you then disqualify him as a lifer? I think there needs to be some flexibility. If your definition is very rigid, I'd say I doubt Jose will be a lifer, and these days it's usually just franchise guys like Duncan, Kobe, etc...who can be and usually choose to be. And even some of those calibre players just choose to go elsewhere.
    Ok, so the thread was mislabeled. Fixed. The main concept of the thread remains intact.

    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Clearly I'm kidding with this, but seriously, I understand the technicality, but lets say we keep Jose until his final year, and then trade him because we know he's done, or he wants to go somewhere else(maybe we'd be bad again by then, and since Jose's game is not very athletic to begin with, he may still be useful as a 2nd or 3rd PG), and he's traded away for 40-50 games...would you then disqualify him as a lifer? I think there needs to be some flexibility. If your definition is very rigid, I'd say I doubt Jose will be a lifer, and these days it's usually just franchise guys like Duncan, Kobe, etc...who can be and usually choose to be. And even some of those calibre players just choose to go elsewhere.
    The main concept of the thread is playing out an NBA career only in one spot.

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    Don’t hold your breath on the Raptors using the amnesty clause this season.

    Certainly where Jose Calderon is concerned, you can pretty much forget about it.

    Calderon, who has a year left and 10.561-million on his contract has been speculated in the past as a potential amnesty target.

    The amnesty clause was included in the NBA collective bargaining agreement signed in December and allows teams a one-time only opportunity to get out from under their worst contracts.

    The Knicks did it with Chauncey Billups and the Orlando Magic did it with the Gilbert Arenas deal. Toronto could use it to free up more cap space, but Colangelo sounds very reluctant to use it at all and even more reluctant to use it on Calderon’s final year.

    “There is no promise or assurance there and I’d say based on the progress of Jose Calderon — he’s the one that