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Thread: Casey setting the bar for next season: Playoffs

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    That is your opinion.

    Your opinion appears to be that the foundation is a player.

    My opinion is the foundation is the philosophy of the team (players, coaches, management) and everyone must be on the same page. This year has been very successful in changing the minds of what people who matter (i.e. other NBA coaches and players) think of when they hear Toronto Raptors. Toronto is no longer a joke and if you don't bring your game, they are going to beat you.

    Successful teams (i.e. championship and deep playoff runs) are built on more than talented players. They are important, very important, but they are not the only important ingredient in the recipe.
    You just mentioned all of the players and declared some of them as "pillars".

    Succesful championship teams are built on talented players with championship intangibles.

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    Maybe, but if they are saying that they are going to get experience, which most fans that have supported the rebuidling process have rejected as a short-term fix, why would I assume his comments were not exactly as he said them.

    To me, the fact that they said the emphsasis is to go get experienced players already indicates to me that they feel that they are going to try and win now, instead of taking a long-term plan like OKC did. Draft picks, and young players is building. Acquiring veterans for the purpose of making the playoffs is not.
    Should we assume that "experience" is synonymous with "aging veterans"? For example, Rudy Gay has experience, but he's got plenty of basketball life left in his tank. It's a win-now move that doesn't sacrifice the future.
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    Quote sleepz wrote: View Post
    You just mentioned all of the players and declared some of them as "pillars".

    Succesful championship teams are built on talented players with championship intangibles.
    And pillars were not classified as the foundation.

    If I failed to explain my thoughts well enough, I apologize.

    I thought it was originally clear and the subsequent explanations and clarifications added clarity.

    If you still don't get my point or disagree with it - so be it.


    *EDIT*

    I'll take another stab at clarification because I don't think the term Pillar and Foundation is being used properly:

    foundation: The basis on which a thing stands, is founded, or is supported.

    pillar: A slender, freestanding, vertical support; a column.

    The philosophy and shift in priorities within the organization (management, coaches, players) was the foundation upon which everything moving forward will be built upon.

    The pillars are supports. The pillars reinforce the structure and are built upon the foundation.

    The role players are your windows, doors, cabinets, etc. They are important things in the structure and functioning of the house but can be replaced if need be.

    The fringe players are the interior paint. Easily changed at a moments notice.



    Again, if you still don't agree, in the words of Derrick Coleman: Whoop De Damn Doo.
    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Fri Apr 27th, 2012 at 03:41 PM.

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    Alright let me set this straight. The pillars/foundations whatever the hell you want to call them are:

    Bargnani
    DeRozan
    Valanciunas
    This years pick
    and maybe Ed Davis

    the rest we don't know yet. Think what you want but the players i listed will more than likely be here next season.

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    Okay. So let's break this down, architecture style.

    You need pillars so you can reach your goal, otherwise you hit a glass ceiling. You also need a solid foundation, or else the structure won't be solid and you'll hit a wall. So if you have the pillars but no foundation, your attendance will go through the floor and criticism will go through the roof. But if you get the foundation without the pillars, you'll be knocking on the door of the playoffs, but ultimately on the outside looking in through