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    After last year’s lockout wiped out summer league, the Raptors will be back in Las Vegas this July. Games will be played between July 13-22.

    And Casey knows who the focus will be for the Raptors’ squad.

    “It’s going to be Eddie Davis’s first summer league [where he is] the number one option,” Casey said. “His first year he had a summer league, and then he got hurt. This is a big summer for him as far as getting in the weight room, getting used to being the number one option in summer league.”

    Davis is the only Raptor to have played in every game this year, but he has had a disappointing sophomore year, averaging just 6.0 points and 6.6 rebounds per game. The team could also include the Raptors’ first pick in this year’s draft and Valanciunas, if Lithuania fails to qualify for the Olympics in a qualifying tournament.

    Casey also said the Raptors will invite their veterans to work out with the team.

    Source: Eric Koreen, National Post


    This assumes he is not traded on draft night or early July.

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    The fact that Casey is making plans for him is a good sign for Ed. Amir could just as easily be traded instead. Amir and Ed might offer the same return at this point.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    The fact that Casey is making plans for him is a good sign for Ed. Amir could just as easily be traded instead. Amir and Ed might offer the same return at this point.
    He talked about working on Amir's jumper this off season as well.

    Honestly, I put little faith in to anything he says regarding players and the future. That is not a knock on DC, that is just smart business. Remember he was talking about no trades at the deadline? It could also be a function of the coach working with whatever the GM puts in front of him as well.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    He talked about working on Amir's jumper this off season as well.

    Honestly, I put little faith in to anything he says regarding players and the future. That is not a knock on DC, that is just smart business. Remember he was talking about no trades at the deadline? It could also be a function of the coach working with whatever the GM puts in front of him as well.
    I think it's a fair assessment for the coach, since both players are under contract. It's up to the GM to trade them so, until he does, the coach has to prepare offseason plans for all contracted players. Obviously the coach and GM talk about potential personnel moves, but nothing is guaranteed and Casey strikes me as the type of coach who would be prepared regardless of the eventual personnel outcome.

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    Regardless of who our 2012 pick is, I would feel more comfortable with Valanciunas being our "number 1 option" in Summer League.

    Come to think of it, whether our pick is A.Davis, MKG, Beal, Barnes, Robinson, Sullinger, or whoever, I would still want him to be higher on the offensive hierarchy than Ed.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Regardless of who our 2012 pick is, I would feel more comfortable with Valanciunas being our "number 1 option" in Summer League.

    Come to think of it, whether our pick is A.Davis, MKG, Beal, Barnes, Robinson, Sullinger, or whoever, I would still want him to be higher on the offensive hierarchy than Ed.
    Lithuania will be in the Olympics, so no need to worry about JV in summer league.

    If the 2012 pick is below Ed Davis on the pecking order, this team is in serious, serious trouble...

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    i think the less pressure we put on big val, even summer league, the better. besides, i think he'll be playing internationally at the time anyways.
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    Regardless of whether Ed is with the Raptors or not, it will be a huge summer for him. He is going into his third season in the NBA and was a lottery pick. While he did show an improvement at the free throw line, nothing else seemed to progress. He has shown that he can be a good rebounder in the NBA, but he will need the summer to show he can impact the game in other areas on a consistent basis. I don't know if he will ever be a decent 15 foot jump shooter, it is so ugly, but if he can gains some strength and refine his jump hook, he can be a 9-10ppg, 9 rebound type player.

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    Quote WJF wrote: View Post
    Regardless of whether Ed is with the Raptors or not, it will be a huge summer for him. He is going into his third season in the NBA and was a lottery pick. While he did show an improvement at the free throw line, nothing else seemed to progress. He has shown that he can be a good rebounder in the NBA, but he will need the summer to show he can impact the game in other areas on a consistent basis. I don't know if he will ever be a decent 15 foot jump shooter, it is so ugly, but if he can gains some strength and refine his jump hook, he can be a 9-10ppg, 9 rebound type player.
    So his ceiling is basically Jeff Foster, lol.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    So his ceiling is basically Jeff Foster, lol.
    Unlike most people around here, I try to stay realistic, He is not a natural scorer at all, but he has decent length and has shown he can rebound, unfortunately, 10 and 9 would be about where Ed tops out at, but those can be very good numbers on the right team.Tyson Chandler average 10 and 9.4 last year for Dallas, sound any better than Jeff Foster?

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    Chandler does sound better than Foster. But perhaps Valanciunas is a better comparison for Chandler.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Chandler does sound better than Foster. But perhaps Valanciunas is a better comparison for Chandler.
    no i think Big V has a chance to be much better offensively and probably a multiple time all star.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    no i think Big V has a chance to be much better offensively and probably a multiple time all star.
    You're probably right, but the point still remains that Valanciunas seems to fit the Chandler "mold" better than Ed. Chandler and Valanciunas are both quick, lanky, defensive-minded 7-foot centers who excel in the PNR game.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    You're probably right, but the point still remains that Valanciunas seems to fit the Chandler "mold" better than Ed. Chandler and Valanciunas are both quick, lanky, defensive-minded 7-foot centers who excel in the PNR game.
    I was only comparing numbers to show how perception can be changed. I don't think Ed and Tyson play anything similar, nor to I think that Jonas will be similar to Tyson.

    Jonas = Brad Miller/Brad Daugherty mix.
    Ed = Cliff Levingston/Charles Smith

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    no i'm sticking with the Antonio Davis ceiling

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Source: Eric Koreen, National Post


    This assumes he is not traded on draft night or early July.
    Why is he still calling him Eddie? The man has said not to call him that.

    Trading him this year would be a mistake.

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    I have pretty much given up on Ed, but I am still interested to see what a full off-season, uninjured, a summer league stint and a full training camp will do for him. Not to mention attention from the various assistant coaches over the summer.

    Wouldn't it be nice if all of the excuses for him not performing turned out to be reasons instead of excuses.

    Good luck Ed. Don't break a leg tonight.

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    Quote Puffer wrote: View Post
    I have pretty much given up on Ed, but I am still interested to see what a full off-season, uninjured, a summer league stint and a full training camp will do for him. Not to mention attention from the various assistant coaches over the summer.

    Wouldn't it be nice if all of the excuses for him not performing turned out to be reasons instead of excuses.

    Good luck Ed. Don't break a leg tonight.
    Why would you give up on a player after he's only played 130games pro with no Camps, Summer leagues or any team sanctioned development/practice/training? Especially considering he missed most of his sophomore year at UNC and was coming off the bench his rookie year. I hate the term "potential" but he does have some serious tools to work with.

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    Quote minks77 wrote: View Post
    Why would you give up on a player after he's only played 130games pro with no Camps, Summer leagues or any team sanctioned development/practice/training? Especially considering he missed most of his sophomore year at UNC and was coming off the bench his rookie year. I hate the term "potential" but he does have some serious tools to work with.
    He played in summer league in 2010. He averaged about 25MPG, 13PPG, 6RB and 2Bl. He's been playing and practising with the team for 2 years.

    As for the small sample size, well, I could go out and play PG for 5 minutes in an NBA game. Based on that 5 mintues, I would be the worst player in the history of the league by an enormous margin. It might be a small sample size but it would be indicative of my abilities. Even if I agree that 130 games is a small sample size, I would still argue it's indicative of Ed Davis' game and abilities. I'm not saying Ed can't be a useful player off the bench but he pretty much is what he is. I don't see how force feeding him the ball in summer league will change that.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    He played in summer league in 2010. He averaged about 25MPG, 13PPG, 6RB and 2Bl. He's been playing and practising with the team for 2 years.

    As for the small sample size, well, I could go out and play PG for 5 minutes in an NBA game. Based on that 5 mintues, I would be the worst player in the history of the league by an enormous margin. It might be a small sample size but it would be indicative of my abilities. Even if I agree that 130 games is a small sample size, I would still argue it's indicative of Ed Davis' game and abilities. I'm not saying Ed can't be a useful player off the bench but he pretty much is what he is. I don't see how force feeding him the ball in summer league will change that.
    I dont think thats a valid comparison. First of all, Im assuming you dont have NBA experience. You have 1 in a trillion, bazzillion, quintillion chance of playing in the NBA for even 1 minute. If you did, then thats a different story altogether. Davis is a lottery pick, with a very good college resume, 6'10" and only 23 yrs old. he has massive room to grow and improve. you maybe right that he is what he is, but that would be down the road, but nobody can accurately say that at this stage in his career, this is where he's going to be at till he retires.

    giving him the ball in summer league, IMO, will definitely help him out a lot. He will be put in situations where he will be the instigator rather than just a bystander, which is what he is right now. even if he doesnt end up to be the #1 on option during the regular season, if in instances where he gets the ball at the end of the shot clock, he'll know what to do, based on his summer league experience. it will definitely give him the confidence, and who knows, maybe thats what he needs. i dont recall any player going through summer league and came out a dumber player. unless he got injured and never played again.

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