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    Default Moe Harkless Highlights


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    i have a feeling Harkless is going to shoot up draft boards come workouts like Paul George. he's certainly intriguing. very raw, though.
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    i have a feeling Harkless is going to shoot up draft boards come workouts like Paul George. he's certainly intriguing. very raw, though.
    I completely agree. I had suggested perhaps trading down to get a couple of mid-round picks and then targeting Harkless and a PG. But I think Harkless might end up rising too high for that.

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    Don't you love it when a highlight mix tape starts with highlights of defence and rebounding?

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    i have a feeling Harkless is going to shoot up draft boards come workouts like Paul George. he's certainly intriguing. very raw, though.
    I have a feeling that every time I watch a highlight real of a player they will shoot up my draft board. Maybe it's the 100% shooting or lack of turnovers.
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    He is intriguing but at #8 IDK.
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    It seem like a lot of you are just finding out about http://swishscout.com/ lol
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    It seem like a lot of you are just finding out about http://swishscout.com/ lol
    Ya... lol.

    BTW They have us talking Lamb. I think it'd be the better choice as well. We need someone who can play really good D as well as stretch the floor.

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    I'm looking at the draft and it doesn't have a ton of value at the top. Drummond and PJ are not proven. Barnes hasn't impressed me at all. He doesn't shoot a good percentage and can't create his own shot. I think they're all potentially busts. Lillard has shown the amount of skill he has, and shoots a good percentage. He doesn't play in the best league, but he can get it done. He has good court vision and is a heads up player that has a quick first step. He isn't in a position to defer, and has to take a majority of the shots... which tells me, he better at offense then the league dictates due to defensive schemes to shut him down. He may also be a better floor general then expected given the chance.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Ya... lol.

    BTW They have us talking Lamb. I think it'd be the better choice as well. We need someone who can play really good D as well as stretch the floor.
    I agree.

    Lamb would be a great pick up.

    7-foot wingspan!!!! Oh yeah, and he can shoot and dribble.

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    I'm looking at the draft and it doesn't have a ton of value at the top. Drummond and PJ are not proven. Barnes hasn't impressed me at all. He doesn't shoot a good percentage and can't create his own shot. I think they're all potentially busts. Lillard has shown the amount of skill he has, and shoots a good percentage. He doesn't play in the best league, but he can get it done. He has good court vision and is a heads up player that has a quick first step. He isn't in a position to defer, and has to take a majority of the shots... which tells me, he better at offense then the league dictates due to defensive schemes to shut him down. He may also be a better floor general then expected given the chance.
    Watching Boston dominate the Hawks tonight got me thinking that more teams might be going to a pg (rondo), pg/sg (bradley), sf, pf, c lineup. It makes more sense when you think about the rule changes and the challenge it is to stop quick ball handlers. Does this make a guy like lillard even more attractive... or is he just another bayless?
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    Watching Boston dominate the Hawks tonight got me thinking that more teams might be going to a pg (rondo), pg/sg (bradley), sf, pf, c lineup. It makes more sense when you think about the rule changes and the challenge it is to stop quick ball handlers. Does this make a guy like lillard even more attractive... or is he just another bayless?
    If you are looking for that type of player, just keep Bayless and put him in the starting lineup at the 2 guard. Draft Lamb at 8 for your Harden-esque, first guard off the bench (or vice versa in time).

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    If you want a fast PG just start Bayless he is pretty damn fast and strong. I think one of the main reasons you guys don't like him as a pg on our team is because we have no ball handlers. Our offense is too PG dominated, its always jose dribbling around looking for an open man. Like look at OKC westbrook doesn't even dribble the ball up sometimes because almost all their wing players can handle the rock and create offense. If Demar could do that and we had a SF who could do that then starting bayless would be no problem, am i right?

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    If you are looking for that type of player, just keep Bayless and put him in the starting lineup at the 2 guard. Draft Lamb at 8 for your Harden-esque, first guard off the bench (or vice versa in time).
    I think Bayless fits that mold and it might be something the Raps look to do if they retain him; however, I am not sold on Bayless' attitude/personality. He seems immature or overcocky or something (this is me judging him from afar). He reminds of that kid that walks into the YMCA thinking he is Jordan and as soon as he gets down a few buckets, he finds that nagging injury acts up. My initial assessment of his demeanor and interviews is "fixed mindset" (from Dweck's book on success, called "Mindset").
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    Thanks for the reference to Dwecks "Mindset." It looked interesting enough that I ordered it. Got Pink's "Drive" as well. Looks like a good duo. Hmmmm. Drive and Mindset are two attributes Casey preaches at his Raptors team. What's your real name "Coach?" :-)

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    If you want a fast PG just start Bayless he is pretty damn fast and strong. I think one of the main reasons you guys don't like him as a pg on our team is because we have no ball handlers. Our offense is too PG dominated, its always jose dribbling around looking for an open man. Like look at OKC westbrook doesn't even dribble the ball up sometimes because almost all their wing players can handle the rock and create offense. If Demar could do that and we had a SF who could do that then starting bayless would be no problem, am i right?
    I agree with this. I was hoping that James Johnson could become that point forward for us last year but, he didn't. I started hoping that he got MKG cause, he seem like he could turn into that like, Andre Iguodala. Now it seems like were not going to be in position to get him. I think Terrence Jones could be that too.
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    Quote Puffer wrote: View Post
    Thanks for the reference to Dwecks "Mindset." It looked interesting enough that I ordered it. Got Pink's "Drive" as well. Looks like a good duo. Hmmmm. Drive and Mindset are two attributes Casey preaches at his Raptors team. What's your real name "Coach?" :-)
    Haha... Dwayne Casey I am not, but do like what I hear from him. "Mindset" is a fantastic read for parents, coaches and teachers and I am all three. If anyone doesn't want to read the whole book but wants a quick overview, here a couple of great sites:

    http://mindsetonline.com/whatisit/about/index.html

    http://michaelgr.com/2007/04/15/fixe...h-one-are-you/

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