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    Forget about these big time players, most unlikely it would happen. I would target

    ATL - T-Mac
    BOS - Jeff Green
    CHA - Gerald Hendersen
    DAL - Vince Carter (vet minimum if the Mavericks get sweep by the Thunder)
    DEN - Wilson Chandler
    GSW - Dorrel Wright (if they pick Perry Jones III or Harrison Barnes)
    MIN - Derrick Williams (Trade)
    MIL - Brandon Jennings
    NJN - Deron Williams
    NYK - Jeremy Lin
    ORL - Ryan Andersen (straight up for Amir Johnson)
    PHI - Louis Williams
    PORT - Nicholas Batum
    SAC - Tyreke Evans
    SAS - Tony Parker + Kawahi Leonard (most likely not)
    UTAH - Burks + AK47

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    I'd like Iggy. But, I highly doubt he's going anywhere as long as Doug Collins is coach.
    Agreed.

    I think out of all the players listed, Josh Smith is the best/most realistic player there. He solves all of our problems, and I personally think he would thrive under a coach like Casey. DC's offense is primarily based around running set plays to create post up situations or short curls. Imagine Josh Smith getting the ball in the post instead of James Johnson...

    I also think a change of scenery and a hard nosed coach who sets boundaries and limitations for players will help him. Finally, and no offense to Atlanta fans, but they are nothing compared to TO fans (when we have a winning team). We are far more passionate and will embrace him much more, giving him the status he has always wanted.

    There isn't a player or pick that would not trade for him.

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    Dorell Wright would be pretty nice to have

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    Quote tenforthewin wrote: View Post
    Forget about these big time players, most unlikely it would happen. I would target

    ATL - T-Mac
    BOS - Jeff Green
    CHA - Gerald Hendersen
    DAL - Vince Carter (vet minimum if the Mavericks get sweep by the Thunder)
    DEN - Wilson Chandler
    GSW - Dorrel Wright (if they pick Perry Jones III or Harrison Barnes)
    MIN - Derrick Williams (Trade)
    MIL - Brandon Jennings
    NJN - Deron Williams
    NYK - Jeremy Lin
    ORL - Ryan Andersen (straight up for Amir Johnson)
    PHI - Louis Williams
    PORT - Nicholas Batum
    SAC - Tyreke Evans
    SAS - Tony Parker + Kawahi Leonard (most likely not)
    UTAH - Burks + AK47
    Chandler and Batum are the only even somewhta realistic options that I would consider targeting. The rest either don't interest me or have 0% chance at being lured to Toronto (ie: Deron Williams).

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    The two guys I actually see BC going after prior to July 1st are Wilson Chandler and JJ Reddick.

    They wants veteran shooters. Both these guys make about $6M a year. Orlando may be desperate to unload some of their salary to try and improve the team.

    Reddick would be a great get (who will also have an expiring contract next year).

    As for Chandler, I think Denver just took him back as an asset rather than a guy they want to move forward with.

    Another guy I wouldn't mind going after is Scola. He's tenacious, and I would love to see him on the team. Not sure Houston would give him up, but a three headed monster of JV/Scola/Bargs would be pretty enticing.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    The two guys I actually see BC going after prior to July 1st are Wilson Chandler and JJ Reddick.

    They wants veteran shooters. Both these guys make about $6M a year. Orlando may be desperate to unload some of their salary to try and improve the team.

    Reddick would be a great get (who will also have an expiring contract next year).

    As for Chandler, I think Denver just took him back as an asset rather than a guy they want to move forward with.

    Another guy I wouldn't mind going after is Scola. He's tenacious, and I would love to see him on the team. Not sure Houston would give him up, but a three headed monster of JV/Scola/Bargs would be pretty enticing.
    Interesting suggestion in Reddick. He's only got 1 year left on his deal. Wonder if Orlando would be willing to deal. He certainly fits the "shooter" requirement that Casey talked about.
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    I am not ashamed to admit I didn't watch a single Bucks game this year. So does anyone know if Ilyasova can play the 3? If so, he might be a good target. Plus he is 24 years old. That puts him in line with the rest of our mediocre core.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Interesting suggestion in Reddick. He's only got 1 year left on his deal. Wonder if Orlando would be willing to deal. He certainly fits the "shooter" requirement that Casey talked about.
    agreed... if BC targets anyone they will be a "shooter" as per Caseys season ending statements. Reddick would fit that mold but id set the sights a little higher then him.. hed be an option though if nothing else

    id look at ray allen in the offseason if hed be willing to come here for less then 5mill.
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    Quote Gorlitzer wrote: View Post
    I am not ashamed to admit I didn't watch a single Bucks game this year. So does anyone know if Ilyasova can play the 3? If so, he might be a good target. Plus he is 24 years old. That puts him in line with the rest of our mediocre core.
    He plays the 3 already. But his game is more suited as a SF/PF combo (rather than a SG/SF combo). He rebounds well, plays great defense (an absolute must under Skiles), and can hit open shots. But he doesn't have the ball skills to beat his man off the dribble. Not sure if he's be a great pairing with DeRozan.
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    I think Josh Smith's positive greatly outweigh any concerns.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I think Josh Smith's positive greatly outweigh any concerns.
    I'd like him if he could play SF. Given his size and athleticism, I don't see why he couldn't. I think he'd definitely be worth the two Johnsons and our 1st round pick.

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    I'm not sure if I'd be willing to trade our pick without getting another 1st rounder back, even if it's outside the lottery.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'm not sure if I'd be willing to trade our pick without getting another 1st rounder back, even if it's outside the lottery.
    I think for some of the players mentioned (ie: Gay & Smith for sure), a 1st round pick would be required. The Raps could always look to buy a later 1st round pick, or possibly swing 2 deals, so they still net out with one lottery pick.

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    I would say that Danny Granger probably makes the most sense out of all the options, especially if the Pacers feel that Paul George is a forward and only a forward. Financially, they're in great shape for the long-term, so re-signing Hibbert/George/Collison won't be an issue anyway, but... if they want to acquire a big name SG to pair with George (Eric Gordon, Kevin Martin, etc.), then moving Granger might enter into their minds.

    Ed Davis, James Johnson, 2012 pick might be enough... I don't think we would sacrifice DD in this scenario.

    As for the others...
    • Josh Smith is probably the 2nd most likely option, although he doesn't really satisfy the 3-point shooting criterion that BC/DC are looking for from the 3 spot.
    • Rudy Gay is wayyy too valuable for the Grizz IMO.
    • Ditto for Deng.
    • Ditto for Parker.
    • Iguodala might work, but I just don't see much incentive for the Sixers. (And like Smith, shooting is not his strong suit.)


    After that, I don't think anyone else in their salary bracket is really worth trading for.

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    Quote jrdyck wrote: View Post
    Iguodala might work, but I just don't see much incentive for the Sixers. (And like Smith, shooting is not his strong suit.)
    The incentive for Philly is the $30 million owed to Iguodala over the next 2 years.
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    Quote c_bcm wrote: View Post
    I would have to go through a thorough list of NBA salaries to know who is reasonable to go after. But from your list the only one I'd be interested in is Rudy Gay. I highly doubt he is gettable.
    I would consider going after Ilyasova, but that wouldn't require a trade. Signing Ersan would also allow us to maintain some level of financial flexibility, which can never be a bad thing for this rebuilding process.
    ditto. I don't see great value in most of these with a player and a lottery pick. Even though the Raptors are likely drafting at #8, they might well be able to get a player that has significant upside, and will be inexpensive for a while. Interesting that Casey is looking for shooters. In the draft, Beal, Barnes, Lamb and maybe Rivers would provide a deep threat (maybe Lillard too?)

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    Quote Bouncepass wrote: View Post
    ditto. I don't see great value in most of these with a player and a lottery pick. Even though the Raptors are likely drafting at #8, they might well be able to get a player that has significant upside, and will be inexpensive for a while. Interesting that Casey is looking for shooters. In the draft, Beal, Barnes, Lamb and maybe Rivers would provide a deep threat (maybe Lillard too?)
    I never would've guessed it, but Lillard was the best 3pt shooter of the bunch last year at 41%.

    Barnes 36%
    Beal 34%
    Lamb 34%
    Rivers 36%
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    Quote jrdyck wrote: View Post
    I would say that Danny Granger probably makes the most sense out of all the options, especially if the Pacers feel that Paul George is a forward and only a forward. Financially, they're in great shape for the long-term, so re-signing Hibbert/George/Collison won't be an issue anyway, but... if they want to acquire a big name SG to pair with George (Eric Gordon, Kevin Martin, etc.), then moving Granger might enter into their minds.

    Ed Davis, James Johnson, 2012 pick might be enough... I don't think we would sacrifice DD in this scenario.

    As for the others...
    • Josh Smith is probably the 2nd most likely option, although he doesn't really satisfy the 3-point shooting criterion that BC/DC are looking for from the 3 spot.
    • Rudy Gay is wayyy too valuable for the Grizz IMO.
    • Ditto for Deng.
    • Ditto for Parker.
    • Iguodala might work, but I just don't see much incentive for the Sixers. (And like Smith, shooting is not his strong suit.)


    After that, I don't think anyone else in their salary bracket is really worth trading for.
    I think the only way Eric Gordon ends up in Indiana is by sign and trade. The Pacers should remember quite well what can happen when you have big money tied up in players not meeting the expectations of the contract. Gordon healthy is worth a lot of money; the problem is he has not shown the ability to stay healthy.

    If a sign and trade happens with Gordon going to Indiana, I think Danny Granger is the money piece being sent in return.

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    If our biggest potential move this summer is to trade for Reddick I'll be very disappointed. As BC said, we'll be in a unique position so let's get everything what's possible, not only one shooter from the bench. I'm not against Reddick, but I hope to see more action from Raptors management
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Interesting suggestion in Reddick. He's only got 1 year left on his deal. Wonder if Orlando would be willing to deal. He certainly fits the "shooter" requirement that Casey talked about.
    I was watching the Magic game last night thinking about what a great addition Reddick would be and with the Magic potentially blowing things up with Dwight leaving, he might very well be available. It's not just shooting. Reddick has turned into a pretty decent two-way player. Van Gundy loves him and that says a lot.

    I like the Josh Smith idea but no Smith trade ever seems to work cause of his salary and the value he has to Atlanta. I don't see how that works without moving Bargnani and I can't see Atlanta necessarily even wanting Bargs. Granger also seems possible but really tough to say what the Pacers would want back. Again, short of Bargnani, don't know what the Raps could offer that would interest Indiana and beat other potential offers.

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