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    No, you must make as many moves as you can, preferably increasing in complexity in each instance. Colangleo is the ultimate practitioner of the Red Queen Theory - no one runs faster to stay in exactly the same place. Look for more of the same this offseason....

    In any case, I see absolutely no scenario where the Thunder don't keep Harden, so this is moot. As for Harden himself, why the hell would Harden leave a team that looks like it will be a contender for the foreseeable future to come to an organization with its head firmly buried up its ass that will be in tough to make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference for the foreseeable future? For a few million more that will have absolutely zero impact on your lifestyle? Improbable.
    i agree, but it wasn't really 'about' whether harden would come to TO, but rather, that the raptors should make a play for him. as for why he wouldn't stay there - well, OKC is committed to a number of other players with fairly hefty pricetags going forward, so it may become something of a numbers game. perhaps harden, as much as he likes it in OKC, would relish the opportunity to not be the 3rd fiddle (or 4th, depending on how you view ibaka).
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    i think harden will be a sign and trade deal in the future. i think that ibaka is more valuable to the team then harden. but okc could go another away and send westbrook away however unlikely.

    right now they can afford everyone and they will compete for the title for two years with the current lineup. i really couldn't see them making a move right now that could damage that.

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    I'm really trying to like the thunder and appreciate what they're doing. But, I just can't help but, have dislike toward them and everyone who plays for them.

    I suppose it's because of the way they got the team are most of the reasons I have a distaste for the NBA.

    I realize they have some great players that I'd love to have on my team. But, I just can't embrace it.

    I suppose it's the same reasons I don'tvlike memphis. It's just I have more of a distaste because it's more recent.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    No, you must make as many moves as you can, preferably increasing in complexity in each instance. Colangleo is the ultimate practitioner of the Red Queen Theory - no one runs faster to stay in exactly the same place. Look for more of the same this offseason....

    In any case, I see absolutely no scenario where the Thunder don't keep Harden, so this is moot. As for Harden himself, why the hell would Harden leave a team that looks like it will be a contender for the foreseeable future to come to an organization with its head firmly buried up its ass that will be in tough to make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference for the foreseeable future? For a few million more that will have absolutely zero impact on your lifestyle? Improbable.
    Both Harden & Ibaka can sign extensions this summer (This "oportunity was extended by OKC to both Durant -unquestionably an elite player, and Westbrook -in some ways similar to Harden-both shoot first PGs) before they become RFA next summer. If you do -OKC is already well over 40 mil to Durant, Westbrook & Perkins, this puts you in mid 60 mil with only 5 players signed (yes I assume they will both get 10-12 mil). This will not work IMO for a small market team, unless at least they make it to NBA finals.
    OKC can wait till next year, when both are RFA & "deal with it/match any contracts". It will likely cost you more $$$ (both are young & improving), while at the same time (by delaying giving them extensions) you are in essence telling both of them that they are not as important as Durant & Westbrook (both of those players received extension offers early).
    We all know how "sensitive NBA stars are" when it comes to respect or lack off. In the nutshell Ibaka is a "big" & thus gets an extension & Harden becomes a Raptor or ?????
    Maybe Eric Gordon (IMO similar to Harden -Gordon might be a better shooter, but Harden can play 1 or 2 and is more durable) will tell us what market for Harden will be next year. As for Ibaka -see D Jordan, with Ibaka being a lot more of an offensive player.
    What would you give up for Harden? -DD, this years first and ??? -or is that too much?