View Poll Results: Who do you select for the Raptors out of this group of remaining prospects?

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  • Jeremy Lamb

    16 26.67%
  • Kendall Marshall

    8 13.33%
  • Perry Jones III

    19 31.67%
  • Tyler Zeller

    0 0%
  • Austin Rivers

    5 8.33%
  • Damian Lillard

    5 8.33%
  • Terrence Jones

    2 3.33%
  • Jared Sullinger

    1 1.67%
  • John Henson

    3 5.00%
  • Terrence Ross

    1 1.67%
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Thread: Breakdown of BC's draft picks in Toronto

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    If BC drafts Henson ......
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    This is pretty damn interesting. I hope the scouting crew are working as hard as the marketing crew.


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    Quite difficult to read mobily.

    But, that's very visually appeasing.

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    They should edit the Roy Hibbert ***traded to Los Angeles Lakers

    That looks crazy though.
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    The fact they've never drafted lower than 21st tells you all you need to know about this team's lack of success.

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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    We have a pick coming up this year in the 1-10 range, likely 8ish. How much confidence do folks have in Colangelo come draft night?

    People love to throw mud at BC and his draft choices it seems ... I personally think some of it is rooted in Raptors draft pains from the Babcock era - and some folks mix in the sentiment. BC didn't lose out on Iggy or Granger ... he drafted well.

    Our roster next year will be made up of many key pieces that were BC's draft picks.
    -Jonas, Bargnani, Demar, Ed and our pick this year (hopefully a rotation piece)

    And as much as there are always talented players passed up, in all cases there were players in the range we chose that would have been much worse picks. Let's see, by looking at the next 5 players in our pick's 'range':

    2006: #1 Andrea Bargnani.
    Then, in order: Lamarcus Aldridge, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas, Shelden Williams, & Brandon Roy.

    Aldridge was a nice pick, but not out of Bargnani's league as a potential all-star PF - or a retired Roy ...

    2009: #9 Demar Derozan.
    Then, in order: Brandon Jennings, Terrence Williams, Gerald Henderson, Tyler Hansbrough, & Earl Clark.

    Jennings would be cool, but wouldn't necessarily give up Demar for him at this point ...

    2010: #13 Ed Davis.
    Then, in order: Patrick Patterson, Larry Sanders, Luke Babbitt, Kevin Seraphin, & Eric Bledsoe.

    Sanders can block shots, but is way behind offensively. Bledsoe has shown signs, but still unrefined ...

    2011: #5 Jonas Valanciunas.
    Then, in order: Jan Vesely, Bismack Biyombo, Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker, Jimmer Fredette.

    Home run! Too early for big judgements on any of these folks - but what we've seen of Jonas since this draft appears to be a player much more developed than this group of rookies, still struggling to pick-up the NBA game ...

    So - do you have draft angst towards BC? As a talent evaluator, he seems to outperform his peers in many cases.
    He didn't to too badly in Phoenix either.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I guess it all depends on whether Memphis prefers Gay or Mayo, and what other offers are received for Gay if he's the one made available. I think they'd be hardpressed to find a deal that nets them a young player with more upside than DeRozan AND a draft pick as high as #8 (regardless of who else is involved). If the Raptors did make a move that included the #8 pick, I hope they'd at least be getting Memphis' #25 pick back.

    If the Raps had to include the #8 pick without unloading Amir's contract, I'd almost rather see them pursue a free agent like Batum or Mayo. I personally just think that DD, JJ, ED, the #8 pick and adding $8M of salary is quite the price to pay for Rudy Gay... almost too much, IMO.
    Gay is a solid (not great player) but at $50+ mil left???
    Would you rather have Batum & Mayo or Gay & keep Bayless next year? Roughly same money.

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    Quote Mapko wrote: View Post
    Gay is a solid (not great player) but at $50+ mil left???
    Would you rather have Batum & Mayo or Gay & keep Bayless next year? Roughly same money.
    I don't think you get Batum for less than $12M and Gay for less than $7M.

    Only off by $2.5M on next year though.

    Puts things in perspective but, again, do the teams match? Memphis? Probably not. Portland? Most likely.

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    Quote torch19 wrote: View Post
    They should edit the Roy Hibbert ***traded to Los Angeles Lakers

    That looks crazy though.
    Hibbert got traded to Indiana.

    But, they shouldn't do that. Because then they'd have to do that for Antawn Jamison as well. Plus, they are still toronto draftees. Not to mention it would just look dumb.

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    That other guy that went there had some issues too, didn't he? Look how he turned out.

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    Gay? I think you mean Mayo for $7M
    Anywho why not get Danny green or Brandon rush and make a run at Batum for $11M

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    Quote stefan5301 wrote: View Post
    Gay? I think you mean Mayo for $7M
    Anywho why not get Danny green or Brandon rush and make a run at Batum for $11M
    I did mean Mayo. Thanks.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    Hibbert got traded to Indiana.

    But, they shouldn't do that. Because then they'd have to do that for Antawn Jamison as well. Plus, they are still toronto draftees. Not to mention it would just look dumb.
    I just meant edit LA Lakers to Indiana since we traded him to Indy & not LA
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    Wow, lots of love in the poll for PJ3 ... surprising.
    The only way to bag a classy lady is to give her two tickets to the gun show... and see if she likes the goods.

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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    Wow, lots of love in the poll for PJ3 ... surprising.
    It has only come on of late coinciding with the possibility that he is really a SF and he dominated a workout (i.e. Chad Ford tweets).

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    It has only come on of late coinciding with the possibility that he is really a SF and he dominated a workout (i.e. Chad Ford tweets).

    My official locked in choice, that my fellow Raptor Republicans can hold me to a year from now when I say I was for whoever it is we drafted all along, is PJ3

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    My official locked in choice, that my fellow Raptor Republicans can hold me to a year from now when I say I was for whoever it is we drafted all along, is PJ3
    I prefer to wait until Wednesday before making my official choice public, but for the record, I've been intrigued by PJ3 the whole season, but it peaked towards the end of the season (when we were out-tanked by other teams).
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I prefer to wait until Wednesday before making my official choice public, but for the record, I've been intrigued by PJ3 the whole season, but it peaked towards the end of the season (when we were out-tanked by other teams).
    He's a freak athlete. Some have questioned his motor...if Casey can get Bargnani to hustle...I'm sure PJ3 will buy in...

    plus that would be a 6'11" - 7'0" - 7'0" front court with a combined wingspan of 22' 2"...put that in your zone and smoke it

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    Perry Jones III is hoping he can convince NBA teams to forget the old Perry Jones III before the draft.

    There may not have been a college basketball player last season, including Kentucky's heralded big man Anthony Davis, who had a better combination of skills, athleticism, versatility and size than the Baylor University forward. Jones, who is 6-foot-11, 235 pounds, can dribble, shoot from long range, post up, pass and rebound. He can play small forward, power forward and even some shooting guard. That Jones didn't show up for the Bears on a nightly basis, the main reason why he is projected as a top-10 pick and not top overall.

    "I don't like that guy. I don't. I don't," Jones told Yahoo! Sports after a workout at Peak Performance Project here this week. "That guy from last season didn't do too well. He didn't do too well at all. I feel like I got a lot to prove. I got a lot of expectations. I want to be successful.

    "I want to be an All-Star at the end of the day. Not just be a player who plays a couple of years or a could've been, should've been. I want to be an All-Star."


    One prominent NBA agent said Jones' inconsistency cost him a chance to compete for the top spot in this draft and he likely will go no earlier than seventh. Former long-time Los Angeles Lakers assistant coach Rasheed Hazzard, who is working out Jones, said he reminds him of a more athletic Lamar Odom.

    Jones lived up to his initial hype as the most heralded recruit in Baylor men's basketball history by averaging 13.9 points and 7.2 rebounds as a freshman and was named a USBWA Freshman All-American. NCAA investigators, however, ruled him ineligible for receiving improper benefits before enrolling at Baylor. As part of his punishment he was sidelined for a loss to Oklahoma in the 2011 Big 12 tournament that ended the school's chances at an NCAA berth.

    He could've challenged Duke's Kyrie Irving for the top selection in the 2011 NBA draft had he entered. In hopes of redeeming himself from the suspension that also included five games this past season, Jones returned to Baylor for his sophomore year.

    "Kyrie Irving did his thing," Jones said. "He did it all in the couple of games that he played [for Duke] playing point guard. But it would have been real tough [to be the No. 1 draft pick]. But now I think I'm a lot better than I was last year."

    The respect for Jones was strong entering last season: He was named the 2011-12 Preseason Big 12 Player of the Year and was an early national player of the year candidate. But he underachieved, averaging only 10 points in four NCAA tournament games, including a two-point performance against South Dakota State. Staying true to form, he showed his talent against eventual national champion Kentucky in an Elite Eight matchup, scoring 17 points.

    Another snapshot of his inconsistency: He had four points in his first game against Kansas State in Big 12 play and a season-high 31 in the second meeting.

    "I felt that I didn't have to be a person scoring all the time because I had more scorers out there and more talent than my freshman year," Jones said. "I felt like I didn't have to have all the weight on my shoulders. Now, it shouldn't matter who is on my team or what everyone else can do. I have to do what I know I can do on any given night. That's how you become a great player."

    Jones got his first chance to change perceptions in front of about 70 NBA personnel officials, including nine general managers, in a workout in Santa Barbara on Thursday.

    "He was impressive with his athletic abilities," one GM said. "It's obvious he will have more success as a wing player than an inside player. He had a good workout."

    Said one assistant GM: "There is going to be a point in the first round where someone is going to say, 'I'm nervous about him, but he by far is the best talent.' "
    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-...AJVJ41mkjqbwM6
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