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    Default What would it take to get the #2 pick?

    I know this may get moved to the trade forum, but I wanted it to get some looks on the main forum.

    The Bobcats need a talent upgrade to the roster, they would like to get rid of Tyrus Thomas I am sure. So would something like this be realistic:

    #2 pick and Tyrus Thomas for the #8, Ed Davis, Linas Kleiza, maybe we throw in a second rounder as well.

    Would that be worth it to move up from 8 to 2, We would be stuck with Thomas for 3 years, but maybe he could find a role with Coach Casey. Ed would be going back to NC and Linas will be Linas.

    Thoughts, any other options?

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    i think you'd have to throw in Demar or (and?) Bargs.

    i'd still do it.
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    Maybe #8, Davis and next year's 1st rounder. I can't imagine Charlotte actually wanting Kleiza.

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    Beal AND Lillard?

    *makes creepy orgasm noises*
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    No way in any world would i touch Tyrus Thomas.

    I think you are placing way too much value on #2.

    No SG/SF at #2 is head and shoulders above what they might get at #8 (I emphasize SG/SF because outside of AD, I can't see the Raptors interested in any of the other bigs of this draft). I do not see a big enough difference in potential to give up any meaningful asset or especially take on any dead weight that would justify the move.

    That is just my opinion though.

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    Quote AJ360 wrote: View Post
    Maybe #8, Davis and next year's 1st rounder. I can't imagine Charlotte actually wanting Kleiza.
    I have next year's pick earmarked for Myck Kabongo at #15.

    lol - 8th seed in the east and a future PG - lol

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    yeah really after AD there are no guaranteed super stars. If we keep the pick we won't do too badly at 8

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    i hate ty thomas but it'd be interesting to see what Casey could do with him
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    he can hand out the towels and gatorade

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    I'm thinking MJ is a cheap bastard so wants young talent on rookie scale contracts or TPE to get further under the cap.

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    if MJ gets any farther under the cap he is gonna be the coaster

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    Pass on Thomas, even if it means getting Beal, MKG or TRob.

    How about:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7wavugo

    Maggette and #2 for Davis, Kleiza and #8?

    Maggette can be our Barbosa next year but as a 2/3 instead of a 1/2.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Pass on Thomas, even if it means getting Beal, MKG or TRob.

    How about:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7wavugo

    Maggette and #2 for Davis, Kleiza and #8?

    Maggette can be our Barbosa next year but as a 2/3 instead of a 1/2.
    Maggette could work...see now people are thinking. I just threw the idea out to see what people thought, not that I wanted it to happen.

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    I would consider #8 & #56 & Ed Davis for #2.

    I think Beal has potential to be a much better all around player than Lamb/Barnes, but that could change between now and the draft. Who knows, some mocks even have Beal dropping to #8... wouldn't that be the ideal outcome for the Raptors?! That deal would also clear up the logjam at PF, settling on Amir as the primary backup PF behind Bargnani.

    I wouldn't give up anything more than Davis & #56 pick because, as other have already said, the dropoff in wing talent available @ #2 to that available @ #8 isn't that significant.

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    I think it's really amusing that after the whole rebuild that began with trading Gerald Wallace, the most talented guy they can hope to get is someone who's upside is frequently sited as being Wallace. It'll be interesting to see if they stick with the rebuild, or try to get a homerun trade.

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    I would only do that trade for Maggette if we were going to amnesty him. That would make sense then.

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    Quote JYFelony wrote: View Post
    I would only do that trade for Maggette if we were going to amnesty him. That would make sense then.
    Unfortunately you can't use the amnesty on a player you trade for. You can only amnesty a player that was signed and on your own roster the day the new CBA came into effect.

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    I would totally do this, and then amnesty Thomas the second the ink is stained. It'd make more sense if we swapped Kleiza for JJ since Charlotte is looking for young pieces and his contract is significantly smaller.

    Also, we're gonna need Kleiza to teach JV some engrish and piss off some unsuspecting NBA players. Then we use that #2 pick to get MKG.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Unfortunately you can't use the amnesty on a player you trade for. You can only amnesty a player that was signed and on your own roster the day the new CBA came into effect.
    We can't amnesty him, but Maggette only has 1 year left on his contract. It's at about $11M next year so is a tad high, but it is an expiring contract. Much better than Tyrus Thomas' contract. If there is salary that Charlotte would want to unload, the only guy I'd want is Maggette.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    We can't amnesty him, but Maggette only has 1 year left on his contract. It's at about $11M next year so is a tad high, but it is an expiring contract. Much better than Tyrus Thomas' contract. If there is salary that Charlotte would want to unload, the only guy I'd want is Maggette.
    I guess the milllion dollar question is this: which type of trade would you rather make?

    A) #8 pick & Davis & JJ --> #2 pick (Beal/MKG) & Maggette ($11M expiring contract)

    or

    B) #8 pick & Davis & JJ & DeRozan --> #25 pick & Rudy Gay


    As much allure as there is with a draft pick, especially given how much we've discussed the draft on RR for the past couple months, I'd rather have Rudy Gay and the #25 pick (which could possibly be moved up with subsequent trades) than Beal/MKG and a year of wasting $11M on Maggette, even if doing so costs DeRozan (since #8 & Davis & JJ were included in both trades).

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