If the Raptors decides to draft a SF at 8 despite the fact that Barnes and MGK are gone, they'll likely have to choose between both Jones. Terrence, from UK and Perry from Baylor. Who do you think would be the best choice for the Raptors?
Which one of the Jones would you rather like on the Raptors roster?
If the Raptors decides to draft a SF at 8 despite the fact that Barnes and MGK are gone, they'll likely have to choose between both Jones. Terrence, from UK and Perry from Baylor. Who do you think would be the best choice for the Raptors?
i would grab anybody that played on that kentucky team
neither one at 8.....
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but..if I had a gun to my head and I had to make a decision and the selection was much later than number 8, I'd choose Perry Jones. At least at pick 15 or later, you can afford to take a risk on his skill. Perry Jones' ceiling is much higher than Terrence Jones' ceiling.
Why wouldn't you take Perry at 8? I think he could be our SF of the future, really. He's a legit 6'10 forward and he's athletic as f*ck. Look at his nba.com draft profile, I really like what I see. He was used as a C at Baylor sometimes but that is because that's what they needed of him. http://www.nba.com/draft/2012/prospe...rry-jones-iii/
If you don't take him, who do you take? A PG? Lamb?
I think this guy as a much higher ceiling than anybody you could pick at 8, except if one of the top prospect falls to us.
Because when you select top-10, you can't afford risks. You take the best player available. And at 8, that isn't Perry Jones.
And who would that be if Lillard and up are gone?
Neither would be worth the 8th pick, but both would definately be improvements at SF for the Raptors. While Perry is the better player with the higher ceiling, Terrence is a better fit for this club. He's a do it all SF who can give you minutes at PF also. He plays solid defence, rebounds, and can handle the ball. He can score around the rim and has an above-average jumper with range out to the three. His only knock is that he hasn't shown much improvement over the last year, granted he did play for a talent heavy squad. While Perry can be a star someday, Jones likely won't be more than a utility player/glue guy type. But that's exactly what Toronto needs. He's a rich mans James Johnson...very rich man. That being said there are many better players that should be considered before him.
Waiters or Lamb
Alternate title: Keeping up with the Joneses
Who knows? Guys slide all the time. By the time we select at 8, there might be a guy there that we never thought would be there.
Neither.
Gun to head: Perry.
T. Jones is NBA ready...P. Jones may never be NBA ready...
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Canadian High School/Prep School prospects.
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Perry.
There's something about this kid that tells me he's going to be a great pro. For whatever reason, I'm not concerned about his personality. Being a little bitch is not something Casey will allow.
He won't necessarily be lighting it up next season, but if brought along cautiously, he could pan out very nicely by year 3.
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+1. That's exactly what I think. To me, this young man got to much potential to be passed on.
I go back and forth on Perry. Hate the risk, but then I think about what about the what-if, of JV playing like a young Sabonis, Bargnani playing like the first 13 games of last season, and PJ3 reaching that potential as a long, athletic SF who can pass, create his own shot, defend well, and rebound. Matchup nightmares on offense and so much length on defense and boards. But man, so risky. He needs time to evolve and learn to play the perimeter game, and I question whether he's got the mental fortitude to stick with a long, rough learning curve without getting frustrated to the point that he loses all passion for the game. I think both guys have a pretty low floor -- they both have potential attitude problems, they both will need to do a lot of work to play at the 3, but Perry has a much higher ceiling. If it's a choice between those two (and lets be honest, it's never just a choice between two guys), I'd go with Perry every time.
Can we just trade down and take Quincy Miller? I'd much rather take a risk on someone whose only questions are physical than someone (PJ3) whose questions are all character/toughness related.
When I see PJ3, I don't know, I just don't buy the hype. Every talks how he's too talented not to be special. Well he's been in college for 2 years and he has not significantly improved at all. If he was special he should've totally dominated in his 2nd year. I know that sounds unfair, but really, is it? He might be the most gifted forward prospect I've ever seen in my life. He's like a slightly stronger, less angular, more fluid version of a young Garnett in body-type. He doesn't even average a steal OR a block, though. I question his passion for the game, and for winning.
Look, I understand the logic, he has such a high ceiling, which I agree with. A draft pick also has to be made on the expectation that the player will get to their ceiling (or at least close). A year ago I may have been ok with this pick, but now? I really believe someone with his tools probably should've been in the running for college player of the year. Honestly, given his high stock last year, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought he might be the top pick or should've been top 3 this year. He didn't really improve in any aspect of the game, though, and still looks mentally disengaged. Great players keep improving, and he doesn't seem to be. Take a pass on this one and wouldn't be upset if I'm wrong.
Oh, and just to briefly explain what I meant about Quincy Miller. He also seems to have a pretty high ceiling and might easily have been a top-10 pick this year if he hadn't been injured. I prefer that type of risk (again, if we trade down) because you'd seem to know what you're getting skills wise and in the mental aspect of the game. Also, he's a 19 year old who came back from a knee injury and still had a strong enough year to be a likely 1st round pick. I think that's probably more toughness than PJ3 will ever show. Quincy's "weakness" is all physical, and I think much easier to work on than Perry's. A coaching staff can just get on him to keep him in the gym. But what do you do about a motorless guy like Perry?
Note: Terrence Jones is the safe pick. I think for all 3 players, 8th pick is too high. But if we had the 15th or 16th pick and all 3 were in play, it'd be really crazy to see how the team goes. PJ3 and the high risk related to mind? Miller and the body-risk? or just go safe with a likely do-it all tweener who could probably replace Linas or JJ right away with Terrence?
I'd go with Miller all the way I think. I wonder if anyone agrees with me.
Either Quincy Miller or Royce White at that point
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