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    Default Damian Lillard - A Sacto Workout to drool over

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFJOEjZPFw

    Looks like a beautiful shooting stroke ... mad handle ... tested well for vertical and wingspan ...
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    Someone just posted this in the draft thread... This guy is legit. Want him running the show in TO.

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    Quote The Coach wrote: View Post
    Someone just posted this in the draft thread... This guy is legit. Want him running the show in TO.
    Oh, my bad ... too quick on the thread starting. But agreed - I think Casey would be a fan as well.
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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    Oh, my bad ... too quick on the thread starting. But agreed - I think Casey would be a fan as well.
    He said that in the interview in Sac that he is off to Portland next and then back down to Golden State... both those teams draft in front of us. I guess every time any of these guys shows well, it also raises the value of our pick for trades.

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    Just a thought, but if Lillard continues to impress could he move into the top 5 of the draft? Whom would that knock down (to maybe Toronto)?

    I'm starting to draw comparisons between Lillard and Beal...great shooters, high character guys, type of players a GM would want on his team.

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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    Just a thought, but if Lillard continues to impress could he move into the top 5 of the draft? Whom would that knock down (to maybe Toronto)?

    I'm starting to draw comparisons between Lillard and Beal...great shooters, high character guys, type of players a GM would want on his team.
    The problem that I see in most mocks is that Sullinger is the guy getting bounced... and I recall Colangelo saying if a guy like Sullinger is there, they need to look at taking him (based on best player available). This turns my stomach.

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    The idea of Beal slipping seems so crazy because he could be in the mix at picks as high as 2 & 3, but if those teams in the top opt for MKG, TRob, Barnes, or Drummond ... the teams leading up to us have young SG's.

    If he makes it past Cleveland (and their Barnes love affair), then it's:

    Sacramento: Big money to Marcus Thornton, High pick on Jimmer who isn't a true PG, and Tyreke on the roster ... not to mention Salmons, Garcia, etc - who can play there.

    Portland: Wes Matthews and Nicolas Batum, 2 of their only main pieces returning can both see time at the SG spot.

    Golden State: Klay Thompson, maybe some Steph Curry ... Brandon Rush, Dorell Wright.

    At the very least, if not passing on Beal, they would trade him for our pick and another asset (2nd rounder?).

    Lillard's rise is enough to make me wonder - Would I like to see Lillard and Demar ... or deal with roster duplicity that Beal brings (i'm not on the 'Demar as SF' bandwagon), forcing future moves?
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    If we're left with no other choice but to move DeMar, I think he could net us a solid rotation piece. Based on his youth and modest scoring numbers, I would imagine a lot of teams would be interested if officially placed on the market.
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    we really do have to draft the most talented player available even if it turns out to be a PF or C ... you can always sort out the roster in trades after

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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFJOEjZPFw

    Looks like a beautiful shooting stroke
    Um, not so much. I had read about his low release point, and now that I've seen this clip, I know what they're talking about. Very, very little arc on his outside shots, and he is kind of heaving it from just higher than his chest. He can get away with that in college (and a weak conference, at that), but that shot will get blocked BIG time in the pros. Mind you, the rest of his mechanics seem good: nice wrist action, excellent follow through, good balance, so I suppose we can assume that he can be coached to change his release point...So we would have on our roster DD, who releases the ball behind his head, and Lillard, who releases it about chin-level. Ouch.

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    Oh, and what's with me still being a Raptors Republic Rookie, anyway? 120 (make that 121) posts and STILL no love? Is there some kind of hazing ritual I have to go through? Someone I have to sleep with? Come on, what's a guy gotta do!!!

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    You're almost there my friend, 79 more posts to go.

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    Quote LeeZ wrote: View Post
    Um, not so much. I had read about his low release point, and now that I've seen this clip, I know what they're talking about. Very, very little arc on his outside shots, and he is kind of heaving it from just higher than his chest. He can get away with that in college (and a weak conference, at that), but that shot will get blocked BIG time in the pros. Mind you, the rest of his mechanics seem good: nice wrist action, excellent follow through, good balance, so I suppose we can assume that he can be coached to change his release point...So we would have on our roster DD, who releases the ball behind his head, and Lillard, who releases it about chin-level. Ouch.
    + 1 big time. Stroke makes me a bit nervous tbh. And I find these videos misleading, the one of John Henson shows him lighting it up -- editing can do wonders. Not saying I don't still really like Lillard, cuz I do, and I think he'll find ways to get his shot off cleanly over time. What I'm really hoping is that someone ahead of us falls in love with him (POR, or maybe even SAC?) in a way that lands us a top 5 guy who's name DOESN'T rhyme with dullinger.

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    Quote LeeZ wrote: View Post
    Um, not so much. I had read about his low release point, and now that I've seen this clip, I know what they're talking about. Very, very little arc on his outside shots, and he is kind of heaving it from just higher than his chest. He can get away with that in college (and a weak conference, at that), but that shot will get blocked BIG time in the pros. Mind you, the rest of his mechanics seem good: nice wrist action, excellent follow through, good balance, so I suppose we can assume that he can be coached to change his release point...So we would have on our roster DD, who releases the ball behind his head, and Lillard, who releases it about chin-level. Ouch.
    His release point is a fraction low. But his mechanics are almost perfect. The guys who shoot the ball from above their heads have slow releases because it takes more time to load and let go. He gets his shot off becuase his motion is fast. Especially as a guard who is not going to out jump anyone.

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    as long as he is able to create space off the dribble at the next level his release point shouldn't be a big deal.

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    Quote LeeZ wrote: View Post
    Oh, and what's with me still being a Raptors Republic Rookie, anyway? 120 (make that 121) posts and STILL no love? Is there some kind of hazing ritual I have to go through? Someone I have to sleep with? Come on, what's a guy gotta do!!!
    Get on my level lol

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    Quote CT2010 wrote: View Post
    His release point is a fraction low. But his mechanics are almost perfect. The guys who shoot the ball from above their heads have slow releases because it takes more time to load and let go. He gets his shot off becuase his motion is fast. Especially as a guard who is not going to out jump anyone.
    ^ This. Some of the game's best shooters have low releases, including guards... see Steve Nash, Eric Gordon, Steph Curry, et al. Lillard will be able to create just as much space as these guys given his great handle and quickness.

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    Quote jrdyck wrote: View Post
    ^ This. Some of the game's best shooters have low releases, including guards... see Steve Nash, Eric Gordon, Steph Curry, et al. Lillard will be able to create just as much space as these guys given his great handle and quickness.
    Exactly ...
    Low release equals getting blocked? No ... not at all.
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    How often does Shawn Marion get his jumper blocked? And he shoots from his freakin' chin. His shot looks like a chest pass, lol.

    There should be zero concern over Lillard's release point, especially considering his ability to create space for himself.
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    Quote LeeZ wrote: View Post
    Um, not so much. I had read about his low release point, and now that I've seen this clip, I know what they're talking about. Very, very little arc on his outside shots, and he is kind of heaving it from just higher than his chest. He can get away with that in college (and a weak conference, at that), but that shot will get blocked BIG time in the pros. Mind you, the rest of his mechanics seem good: nice wrist action, excellent follow through, good balance, so I suppose we can assume that he can be coached to change his release point...So we would have on our roster DD, who releases the ball behind his head, and Lillard, who releases it about chin-level. Ouch.
    Another BIG mistake with his jumper his how he keeps bringing the ball down toward his knees. The passing coach keeps making the effort to make the pass high. Lillard catches high but continues to drop the ball to his knees before the shot. That will have ) chance in the NBA . A very easy fix on his shot but his shot is far from perfect despite the fact that it is a acurate shot.

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