View Poll Results: Well?

Voters
64. You may not vote on this poll
  • Nash

    29 45.31%
  • Lowry

    35 54.69%
Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 96

Thread: Nash or Lowry

  1. #21
    Raptors Republic Veteran Bendit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    5,191
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    That's an interesting point you've made, but whom has Nash attracted to Phoenix other than an aging Hill and and even older Shaq?

    Even without Nash we were able to some aging players that came here for the money Olajuowan (?), J.O. etc..
    Attracting someone includes another important element...ownership, one that is willing to spend the money. The ownership in PHX is notorious for not.

  2. #22
    Raptors Republic All-Star Mediumcore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    2,200
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    My pick provided we're giving up the exact same to acquire said player would be for Nash as he makes us much better instantly, however if it comes down to what would be required to get either player I would say Lowry as Nash will likely cost us more.

    I'm starting to get a little disinchanted with Nash actually (sacreligous I know). He seems to be after personal gain rather than chasing a championship. That's the same as Calderon saying he'd play back up to Ford or Jack for the "good of the team". Where's your competetive spark? You should want to win if you're a competitor. Nash, seemingly just wants to set himself up for the future it would seem.

  3. #23
    Raptors Republic Starter c_bcm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    Posts
    290
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Nash. Then draft Kendall Marshall.

  4. #24
    Raptors Republic Rookie
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    189
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Why would Nash ever play for Toronto?... because he is Canadian. Nash only has a couple of year's left in the league and wants to win a title... he is not going to play for the Raptors...EVER.

  5. #25
    Raptors Republic All-Star slaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    2,096
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Nash. The Raptors have never even had a chance to land a player of his calibre in free agency. Even in his late 30s, he is one of the most efficient, effective PGs in the NBA. Look at how far he dragged a very poor Phoenix roster last year. Not only is Lowry not as good a player, he costs you assets other than money. Assets that could better be spent elsewhere. I have a hard time fathoming how Lowry is ahead in this poll....

  6. #26
    Raptors Republic Rookie badbob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    62
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I agree with some other people on here that my heart says Nash but it would be to the Raptor's advantage to sign Lowry as he is much younger and plays better defense and he could grow with the younger players that the Raptor's have. He is 12 years younger then Nash that has got to say something!!! Lowry would be a great addition to the Raptor's!!

  7. #27
    Raptors Republic Hall of Famer mcHAPPY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    19,680
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    On the surface I'd say Lowry.

    However, thinking about it more, Lowry is going to cost the #8. If you are only getting back one of the picks (14/16), I think Nash might be the better option.

    He'd give you 2 years to figure out a replacement. The Raptors could even draft that replacement at 8 with Lillard.

  8. #28
    Raptors Republic All-Star Balls of Steel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Richmond Hill, ON
    Posts
    1,970
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Nash for a number of reasons.

    1.) He's a teacher. Sure defensively he's not as good as Lowry but Jose wasn't either.
    2.) He's an ambassador of the game. Could put the Raps on the map a lot better than Vince ever did. Toronto becomes an attractive destination for player. Nash has major clout in the league.
    3.) Lowry, clashed with his coach, who is not as hard-ass as Casey. How will that relationship blossom with Dwayne?
    “The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King

  9. #29
    Raptors Republic Hall of Famer mcHAPPY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    19,680
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote black angus wrote: View Post
    Why would Nash ever play for Toronto?... because he is Canadian. Nash only has a couple of year's left in the league and wants to win a title... he is not going to play for the Raptors...EVER.
    1) JT, BC
    2) Canadian and instant national hero
    3) the majority of his business ventures are Canadian based and what better way to expand and promote
    4) money
    5) Basketball Canada position
    6) ALEX McKECHNIE
    7) Toronto has expendable assets (Bayless, Weems, Forbes, 2nd round picks) to make it worth Phoenix's wild to make a trade happen giving the Raptors an opportunity to use cap space and bolster the roster BEFORE Nash were to join.

  10. #30
    Super Moderator CalgaryRapsFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    4,335
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    1) JT, BC
    2) Canadian and instant national hero
    3) the majority of his business ventures are Canadian based and what better way to expand and promote
    4) money
    5) Basketball Canada position
    6) ALEX McKECHNIE
    7) Toronto has expendable assets (Bayless, Weems, Forbes, 2nd round picks) to make it worth Phoenix's wild to make a trade happen giving the Raptors an opportunity to use cap space and bolster the roster BEFORE Nash were to join.
    8) Toronto is the closest city of the alleged top-3 (Tor/Pho/Por) to his summer home in New York

  11. #31
    Raptors Republic All-Star Letter N's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,439
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Lowry.

    Nash deserves better than this team for the final years of his career. I would rather Nash win with the Lakers than to end his career without a ring and playing for a team fighting to make the playoffs.

  12. #32
    Raptors Republic Superstar planetmars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    3,436
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    Lowry.

    Nash deserves better than this team for the final years of his career. I would rather Nash win with the Lakers than to end his career without a ring and playing for a team fighting to make the playoffs.
    I understand why you'd want Nash to win a championship.. but he doesn't appear to be the type of guy that would take the easy way out by going to an already established team and riding their coat tails to a championship. He wants to earn it like a typical blue collar type of worker.

    A recent rumour has Nash's short list being Portland, Phoenix and Toronto. Neither of these teams are going to win a championship anytime soon. I'd choose Toronto over those other two, simply because I'm a fan of his and a fan of the Raptors. Does Nash deserve playing for Portland more so than playing for Toronto?

  13. #33
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    240
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I do think Lowry would help us out quite a bit presently and in the future. But I also believe that Nash is the type of playmaker that would help us get the most out of Bargs, Demar, AND JV. I'm picturing JV in the pick and roll with Nash, having Demar slashing, and Bargs as an outside option ready to beat his man off the dribble, or take the open J. Someone punch me in the face with reality before I go too far with this...

  14. #34
    Super Moderator CalgaryRapsFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    4,335
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote JYFelony wrote: View Post
    I do think Lowry would help us out quite a bit presently and in the future. But I also believe that Nash is the type of playmaker that would help us get the most out of Bargs, Demar, AND JV. I'm picturing JV in the pick and roll with Nash, having Demar slashing, and Bargs as an outside option ready to beat his man off the dribble, or take the open J. Someone punch me in the face with reality before I go too far with this...
    Just think how good that dream would be if the Raps actually added a starting SF who could contribute offensively! Yikes!

  15. #35
    Raptors Republic Veteran Nilanka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    6,038
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    A point for consideration: Remember what happened when a defensive-minded coach (i.e. Terry Porter) handcuffed Nash's offensive tenancies?

    Should we stop and think about Casey and Nash's ability to mesh?
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

  16. #36
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    240
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    A point for consideration: Remember what happened when a defensive-minded coach (i.e. Terry Porter) handcuffed Nash's offensive tenancies?

    Should we stop and think about Casey and Nash's ability to mesh?
    No, we should disregard any possibility of Nash not working out with us. Once you enter "Raptors Fantasyland" you only think of the positives.

  17. #37
    Super Moderator thead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    3,020
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I have said this before...a man publicly going after his coach like that is a bit of a red flag for me. Nash is the character guy with no future. Lowry might be tamed by being the man in Toronto...but *cliche alert at the end of the day he has two years left at 5 million a pop is a lock down defender at the point 85% from the free throw line 37% from 3 it seems like a high value contract if you ask me

  18. #38
    Super Moderator thead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    3,020
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    A point for consideration: Remember what happened when a defensive-minded coach (i.e. Terry Porter) handcuffed Nash's offensive tenancies?

    Should we stop and think about Casey and Nash's ability to mesh?
    another reason Lowry might be the better fit

  19. #39
    Super Moderator thead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    3,020
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    if I'm going to be completely honest (and post 3 times in a row) I want Nash for all the wrong reasons

  20. #40
    Raptors Republic Rookie
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    132
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote black angus wrote: View Post
    Why would Nash ever play for Toronto?... because he is Canadian. Nash only has a couple of year's left in the league and wants to win a title... he is not going to play for the Raptors...EVER.
    I think we would. I don't think he necessarily is chasing a title.

    In a recent interview, which i can't find right now but will look for it when i get home, he (nash) said that he is not letting a ring define his career. He is perfectly happy with his career and will look at situation/family/money.

    Maybe he is saying that to leverage a bigger payday with a title contender but i feel that coming to TOronto would be self fulfilling to him. Especially as an ambassador to Canadian athletes.

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •