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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Thank you for the compliment.

    Unfortunately, it looks like I wasted an hour and a half this morning wrapping my head around the numbers.
    Well maybe it was wasted, but I'm pretty sure everyone here appreciate all the effort you went through to write up such an informative post

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Seems any time there's a euro FA the raps are making offers
    I would rather have Euros who want to play here than ungrateful b##&es (read BOSH)

    Jonas and Rubio are better than NCAA talent anyway.

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    **Double Post Alert: sorry about that. I made this in Nash thread**


    Something else to consider:

    If Asik deal is correct and it is $8.3M per year cap hit per year;
    If Lin rumours are true and $10M per year cap hit;

    Rockets need to dump about $9M in salary to make the offer if my math is correct.


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    Toronto can certainly help clear a good chunk of it.

    A sign and trade for Nash could also turn in to a 3 team affair with PHX-HOU-TOR.



    So putting this in the context of Ilyasova. Essentially, what I laid out earlier is still plausible. The only exception would be Toronto takes on nearly $10M of salary from Houston ($7.6M of salary of Ilysova + $3.2M of salary cap space) from Houston leaving them with enough salary cap space to make their offer to Lin.

    So from the top of the original post:


    So how do the Raptors make it all work?

    The magic number in all of this is $51.744M. The Raptors cannot have more than $51.744M in committed salary and cap holds before making the offer to Fields.

    1) Sign and trade for Nash. Either send Calderon and/or Forbes out in a sign and trade or amnesty Jose or send Forbes (or send Forbes out in #2 if Suns don't want him meaning the Suns get just a TPE). That is $12M out and $12M in if the high reports are true. There has been rumblings the offer is less than $36M but lets go with the higher number to be safe. *EDIT: include Bayless here as part of S&T or make it a 3 team deal with Bayless going to PHX*

    2) Sign and trade for Ilyasova. The Turk is reportedly looking for a deal in the $8M range. Well, Raps have a $7.6M TPE. Would the $400k difference kill any deal? Going to Milwaukee would be one of Ed Davis or Amir Johnson, James Johnson, and possibly Forbes if he wasn't sent out in #1. *EDIT: Forget Ilyasova. The $7.6M TPE just became Rocket salary to help them land Lin. ED/JJ/GF either sent to another team for nothing but future 2nd round, top 55-protected draft picks or sent to PHX in S&T*

    Lets be conservative and just say that Calderon, Ed Davis, James Johnson, and Gary Forbes are gone when the smoke clears; Nash is signed at $12M; and Ilyasova is signed at $7.6M.

    From our Magic number of $51.744, the Raps have this (all salary numbers from ShamSports.com):

    Nash: $12M
    Bargnani: $10M
    Houston players: $7.6M
    Amir: $6.05M
    Kleiza: $4.6M
    DD: $3.344M
    JV: $2.812M
    Ross: $2.136M

    This gives 8 players at $48.542M leaving $3.2M in cap space. If Nash signs for less than $12M, whatever the difference is added to $3.2M giving remaining cap space below magic number of $51.744M.

    3) Sign Bayless to a contract with the remaining cap space. *EDIT: Bayless cap space might have absorbed Houston Rocket salary to help them make an offer for Lin and Asik or he was sent to PHX in S&T*

    4) Sign Fields to offer sheet of 3 years, $19M with an average cap hit of $6.3M per season taking the Raptors right up to the salary ca of $58.044M.

    5) Raps will have a room exception of $2.5M. Re-sign Gray or another C?

    6) Round out roster with minimum contracts: Magloire, Andersen, Acy, Uzoh?


    Final Roster:

    PG: Nash, ?, Uzoh
    SG: DD, Ross, Andersen
    SF: Fields, ?, Kleiza
    PF: Bargnani, Amir, Acy
    C: JV, ?, Magloire

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    **Double Post Alert: sorry about that. I made this in Nash thread**


    Something else to consider:

    If Asik deal is correct and it is $8.3M per year cap hit per year;
    If Lin rumours are true and $10M per year cap hit;

    Rockets need to dump about $9M in salary to make the offer if my math is correct.





    Toronto can certainly help clear a good chunk of it.

    A sign and trade for Nash could also turn in to a 3 team affair with PHX-HOU-TOR.



    So putting this in the context of Ilyasova. Essentially, what I laid out earlier is still plausible. The only exception would be Toronto takes on nearly $10M of salary from Houston ($7.6M of salary of Ilysova + $3.2M of salary cap space) from Houston leaving them with enough salary cap space to make their offer to Lin.

    So from the top of the original post:


    So how do the Raptors make it all work?

    The magic number in all of this is $51.744M. The Raptors cannot have more than $51.744M in committed salary and cap holds before making the offer to Fields.

    1) Sign and trade for Nash. Either send Calderon and/or Forbes out in a sign and trade or amnesty Jose or send Forbes (or send Forbes out in #2 if Suns don't want him meaning the Suns get just a TPE). That is $12M out and $12M in if the high reports are true. There has been rumblings the offer is less than $36M but lets go with the higher number to be safe. *EDIT: include Bayless here as part of S&T or make it a 3 team deal with Bayless going to PHX*

    2) Sign and trade for Ilyasova. The Turk is reportedly looking for a deal in the $8M range. Well, Raps have a $7.6M TPE. Would the $400k difference kill any deal? Going to Milwaukee would be one of Ed Davis or Amir Johnson, James Johnson, and possibly Forbes if he wasn't sent out in #1. *EDIT: Forget Ilyasova. The $7.6M TPE just became Rocket salary to help them land Lin. ED/JJ/GF either sent to another team for nothing but future 2nd round, top 55-protected draft picks or sent to PHX in S&T*

    Lets be conservative and just say that Calderon, Ed Davis, James Johnson, and Gary Forbes are gone when the smoke clears; Nash is signed at $12M; and Ilyasova is signed at $7.6M.

    From our Magic number of $51.744, the Raps have this (all salary numbers from ShamSports.com):

    Nash: $12M
    Bargnani: $10M
    Houston players: $7.6M
    Amir: $6.05M
    Kleiza: $4.6M
    DD: $3.344M
    JV: $2.812M
    Ross: $2.136M

    This gives 8 players at $48.542M leaving $3.2M in cap space. If Nash signs for less than $12M, whatever the difference is added to $3.2M giving remaining cap space below magic number of $51.744M.

    3) Sign Bayless to a contract with the remaining cap space. *EDIT: Bayless cap space might have absorbed Houston Rocket salary to help them make an offer for Lin and Asik or he was sent to PHX in S&T*

    4) Sign Fields to offer sheet of 3 years, $19M with an average cap hit of $6.3M per season taking the Raptors right up to the salary ca of $58.044M.

    5) Raps will have a room exception of $2.5M. Re-sign Gray or another C?

    6) Round out roster with minimum contracts: Magloire, Andersen, Acy, Uzoh?


    Final Roster:

    PG: Nash, ?, Uzoh
    SG: DD, Ross, Andersen
    SF: Fields, ?, Kleiza
    PF: Bargnani, Amir, Acy
    C: JV, ?, Magloire
    Another waste of time.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Another waste of time.
    blame it on Nash. LOL

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    You did say that Houston needs to get rid of $10 M in salary. Maybe Lowry? They have a big enough crop of players to choose from.
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