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Thread: Raptors in discussion with 76ers for Igoudala (Thorn denies rumor (#163)

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    You said it...his potential. I understand that potential can get you fired but honestly i really think he is going to be a star. Every year he has improved and every year he finishes the year off strong which leads be to believe that if we make the playoffs he can do something. Also a guy that as hard working and athletic as he is has a very good chance to be good.

    Now its not that derozan is untouchable its that we don't need to give him to get iggy, and if 10 mil expiring plus a rookie contract of ed davis is not enough maybe you add JJ...but derozan is a steep price.
    now what if I said this LA born native was non-committal about returning to the RAPs in his contract year... and that DC did not think he had the mental make up for a deep play off drive...

    would you want the dog and pony show of will he stay or will he go in his contract year? wants to go to a winner?
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    Flynn is who I was hoping for. I would love to see Bayless and JJ packed in a trade for a 1st round pick, or a couple 2nd round picks, after this deal.

    C: Valanciunas, Vucevic, Gray/Magloire
    PF: Bargnani, Amir, Acy
    SF: Iggy, Kleiza
    SG: Fields, Ross
    PG: Lowry, Flynn, Uzoh
    I like this line up and if we can work out a sign & trade for O.J Mayo to use our 7.6M TPE with Memphis that would be great IMO....say a 4 yr 40M deal? (7.6,9.4,11,12) and offer JJ and 3M as a thank you for doing the deal.

    I would renounce Bayless honestly and go with Flynn on a 4 year 12m deal if he would sign for that.

    If we indeed keep Fields then he can float between a 2 and 3 and end up signing a vet to fill in the holes.


    Lowry , Flynn , Uzoh
    Mayo , Ross , Fields
    Iggy , Kleiza , Fields
    Bargnani , Amir , Acy
    Valanciunas , Vucevic , Pryzibilla or Magloire

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    Rod Thorn said there’s no truth to rumblings about a trade involving the 76ers and Raptors.
    Source: phillyBurbs.com

    Perhaps Colangelo leaked the rumor to get other teams to improve their offers for DD and Calderon?

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    Quote charlz wrote: View Post
    now what if I said this LA born native was non-committal about returning to the RAPs in his contract year... and that DC did not think he had the mental make up for a deep play off drive...

    would you want the dog and pony show of will he stay or will he go in his contract year? wants to go to a winner?
    so your logic is to trade everyone before their contract year for one of the worst contracts in the league...true

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    Source: phillyBurbs.com

    Perhaps Colangelo leaked the rumor to get other teams to improve their offers for DD and Calderon?
    i posted that link in here last night.. it looks to me to be a random Phila reporter tweeting his wet dream...

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    As much as I want DD off this team, I prefer to stay away from Iggy and his fragile heel, not to mention his $14 million salary.
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    good thing its a rumor i dont want iggy. Especially for DeMar

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    good thing its a rumor i dont want iggy. Especially for DeMar
    What about DeRozan , Davis and a Future top 10 protected pick for Chandler, Mozgov & rights to Quincy Miller? Chandler's salary is reasonable over his contract and Mozgov is a decent backup C that expires plus a possible 3rd SF. Gives Nuggets an extra 4m to help towards resigning McGee plus quality SG and another big???? Any thoughts

    Then go after O.J Mayo
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    Quote GoHuskies wrote: View Post
    What about DeRozan , Davis and a Future top 10 protected pick for Chandler, Mozgov & rights to Quincy Miller? Chandler's salary is reasonable over his contract and Mozgov is a decent backup C that expires plus a possible 3rd SF. Gives Nuggets an extra 4m to help towards resigning McGee plus quality SG and another big???? Any thoughts

    Then go after O.J Mayo
    hell no... i like chandlers game but thats WAY more then hes worth.. i didnt even want to do the Iggy deal for the same reasons..

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    Beware of Rod Thorn. He is a shark and we do remember the Wince deal don t we? Stefanski had a birds eye view of that trade (he was Thorn's asst in NJ) and should also be quite knowledgeable of Philly's roster. Double check the contents of your wallet when Thorn agrees to a deal.

    My own preference is to try for Wilson Chandler. He is in the same age bracket, has good off & def skills, moderately priced with term and should not be prohibitive in terms of assets going back (but I'd rather not give up any futures). And then we should give it a rest until trade deadline.

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    Lets get Deng!! Instant top-10 defensive team if we trade Derozan for Deng.
    Lowry
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    Deng
    Bargnani
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    ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
    Nick Young is signing with Philadelphia, agent Mark Bartelstein announces. Details to come

    That could very well end the DeRozan to Philly rumors...

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
    Nick Young is signing with Philadelphia, agent Mark Bartelstein announces. Details to come

    That could very well end the DeRozan to Philly rumors...
    If anything, means we dont have to trade Derozan to get AI. AI is now ever expandable.

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    You know, at this point I think Deng is my choice as well. I think he's a better option than Iguodala, definitely, and I think the Bulls *should* be motivated to get a high-quality PG who can start all year in 2012-13. Unless they've simply written off this season while they wait for Rose to return. Jose seems like a perfect one-season solution, doesn't he?

    Calderon and Ed works. Exchange Davis for James Johnson if they'd prefer a SF in return.

    Lowry / Bayless
    Derozan / Ross
    Deng / Kleiza / Acy/Johnson
    Bargnani / Amir / Acy/Davis
    Valanciunas / Gray

    seems like a decent rotation to me.
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    Quote jimmie wrote: View Post
    You know, at this point I think Deng is my choice as well. I think he's a better option than Iguodala, definitely, and I think the Bulls *should* be motivated to get a high-quality PG who can start all year in 2012-13. Unless they've simply written off this season while they wait for Rose to return. Jose seems like a perfect one-season solution, doesn't he?

    Calderon and Ed works. Exchange Davis for James Johnson if they'd prefer a SF in return.

    Lowry / Bayless
    Derozan / Ross
    Deng / Kleiza / Acy/Johnson
    Bargnani / Amir / Acy/Davis
    Valanciunas / Gray

    seems like a decent rotation to me.
    +1

    I've fallen into the Deng camp (assuming Gay is off limits). I'd rather have Deng over AI. My concern over Deng is that he'll be playing in the Olympics for his home country while still holding on to a wrist injury that he may end up getting surgery for when the new season starts up. However I've heard that the surgery may not be required. He's younger and slightly cheaper than AI, and has similar defensive accolades as AI. But what I like most about Deng is that he has been playing for a defensive minded coach the past few seasons and so moving to a Casey system should be a natural move for him.

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    Quote jimmie wrote: View Post
    You know, at this point I think Deng is my choice as well. I think he's a better option than Iguodala, definitely, and I think the Bulls *should* be motivated to get a high-quality PG who can start all year in 2012-13. Unless they've simply written off this season while they wait for Rose to return. Jose seems like a perfect one-season solution, doesn't he?

    Calderon and Ed works. Exchange Davis for James Johnson if they'd prefer a SF in return.

    Lowry / Bayless
    Derozan / Ross
    Deng / Kleiza / Acy/Johnson
    Bargnani / Amir / Acy/Davis
    Valanciunas / Gray

    seems like a decent rotation to me.
    First you forgot Fields behind Deng in the rotation.
    Second, DECENT!?!?
    This team is the best team that BC would ever produce in toronto. So much defensive talent + Some serious offensive prowess. The team is 2 deep in every position (I trust Gray), as well as fluid (many combo players, could pull Large or Small lineup at will), the team is tall, the team can shoot, the team is young and improving. With the potential of Val being a star (I think he will be better than Hibbert, and he was an all-star last season), and Bargnani keeping his game up, and Derozan improving, while Lowry showing what he is worth, this team will be mid-high playoff caliber.

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    wasn't sure what Iggy's contract was like... so looked it up...

    NO. please dear god NO.

    He gets paid like basketball royalty when he's upper middle class at best

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    Brand was just amnestied according to Woj from Yahoo. They're pretty thin at the PF position at the moment. What implications does this have with the Raps. Does it have any implications at all? With Brand amnestied, could Iggy be on his way out?
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    Brand was just amnestied according to Woj from Yahoo. They're pretty thin at the PF position at the moment. What implications does this have with the Raps. Does it have any implications at all? With Brand amnestied, could Iggy be on his way out?
    Maybe they want Ed and/or Amir?

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    +1

    I've fallen into the Deng camp (assuming Gay is off limits). I'd rather have Deng over AI. My concern over Deng is that he'll be playing in the Olympics for his home country while still holding on to a wrist injury that he may end up getting surgery for when the new season starts up. However I've heard that the surgery may not be required. He's younger and slightly cheaper than AI, and has similar defensive accolades as AI. But what I like most about Deng is that he has been playing for a defensive minded coach the past few seasons and so moving to a Casey system should be a natural move for him.
    dont worry to much about Deng & the Olympics... hes playing for Great Britian... they shouldnt last more then a few games maybe..

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