Raptors in discussion with 76ers for Igoudala (Thorn denies rumor (#163)

[CalgaryRapsFan]

I did read that Philly was looking at moving Holiday to SG and pursuing a PG. Don't remember where I read that.

I assume this deal would change their minds.

PF - Brand, Davis, Moultrie
SF - Young, Harkless
SG - DeRozan, Evans
PG - Holiday, Calderon

Unless they start DeRozan at SF and go with DD/Evans/Holiday

[draftedraptor]

Plus you have to giveup something of real value to get a legit all-star.

How about Magloire as our legit all-star? Screw this trade and stick with our young talent. Demar is someone we have spent time developing and I don't want to give up on him just yet.

Again, I don't think this is bad trade at all. I like Iggy but somehow this trade reminds me of Turk saga.

[jimmyhunter]

Love the idea of getting Iggy, but I'm affraid we're giving up too much proven and potential talent for him. At least send Amir instead of Davis and maybe take back another contract. But on the bright side, Iggy's deal will likely come off the books next yr when he opts out to test the market. We're in a good financial situation so his contract will probably translate to pure cap space, plus the FA class is better next yr.

[Matt52]

I assume this deal would change their minds.

PF - Brand, Davis, Moultrie
SF - Young, Harkless
SG - DeRozan, Evans
PG - Holiday, Calderon

Unless they start DeRozan at SF and go with DD/Evans/Holiday

I would be surprised if Brand is back but I've been wrong before. I see this:

PG: Calderon
SG: Holiday, DD
SF: Evans, Young, Harkless
PF: Brand, Davis, Moultrie


I think Harkless is a project, Young remains 6th man, and DD becomes Lou off the bench.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

Love the idea of getting Iggy, but I'm affraid we're giving up too much proven and potential talent for him. At least send Amir instead of Davis and maybe take back another contract. But on the bright side, Iggy's deal will likely come off the books next yr when he opts out to test the market. We're in a good financial situation so his contract will probably translate to pure cap space, plus the FA class is better next yr.

Agreed. I would much prefer DD, Amir and Bayless, but then we're arguing about our backup PF/PG, so I'm not toooo concerned.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

I would be surprised if Brand is back but I've been wrong before. I see this:

PG: Calderon
SG: Holiday, DD
SF: Evans, Young, Harkless
PF: Brand, Davis, Moultrie


I think Harkless is a project, Young remains 6th man, and DD becomes Lou off the bench.

I think they like all the positional flexibility they'd have with guys like Holiday, Williams, Evans, DeRozan and Young

[CalgaryRapsFan]

How about Magloire as our legit all-star? Screw this trade and stick with our young talent. Demar is someone we have spent time developing and I don't want to give up on him just yet.

Again, I don't think this is bad trade at all. I like Iggy but somehow this trade reminds me of Turk saga.

The Raps would still have loads of young talent

Player (age during next season):

C - Valanciunas (20)
PF - Bargnani (27)
PF - Amir (25)
PF - Acy (22)
SF - Fields (24)
SF - Kleiza (27/28)
SF - J.Johnson (25/26)
SG - Ross (21/22)
PG - Lowry (26/27)
PG - Bayless (24)
PG - Uzoh (24/25)

SF - Iggy (28/29)

[optifan]

Source?? I can't find this anywhere and don't think it's a legit rumour at all.

[DoNDaDDa]

Source?? I can't find this anywhere and don't think it's a legit rumour at all.

ya ive just been searching to & have found nothing..

[Matt52]

How about Magloire as our legit all-star? Screw this trade and stick with our young talent. Demar is someone we have spent time developing and I don't want to give up on him just yet.

Again, I don't think this is bad trade at all. I like Iggy but somehow this trade reminds me of Turk saga.

My concern has nothing to do with another Turk-gate scenario.

AI is looking to get paid one more time and is 2 years younger than Turk was.

My concerns would be:

1) his game is based on athleticism and he is getting older (happens to all of us)
2) his Achilles has been an issue for the last 2 years I believe.

[DoNDaDDa]

cant speak for optifan but.. i ment a legit source... not just some random twitter feed

[Matt52]

Source?? I can't find this anywhere and don't think it's a legit rumour at all.

Yup. My twitter feed has not exploded and Raptors just sent out this:




Toronto Raptors ‏@Raptors

Best of luck to DeMar with the USA Select Team! http://blog.raptors.com/press-releas...l-select-team/ RT @DeMar_DeRozan: Vegas..

[Usagi_yo_Jimbo]

I hope this is just a rumour, we'd be giving up waaaaaay too much for iggy. I would give derozan until the end of this season to see if he pans out.

[geo]

there is no way we trade derozan idc...ill give up bargs...BC DONT GIVE DEROZAN DONT

[thead]

Feel free to merge this with another thread I couldn't find one though.

The rumour going around now is that the raptors are in trade talks with the 76ers for Igoudala.
The trade would send Calderon, DeMar Derozan, and Ed Davis for Andre Igoudala and Nikola Vuvejic.

I have mixed feelings with this trade. I feel Demar has a lot of room to grow and shouldn't be the first to be traded for a guy in his prime who will soon decline. But at the same time we have Ross and likely fields and this would solve our largest problem and we'd get vuvejic another center. Assuming this was the last move this offseason our lineup would look like

Lowry/Bayless(if resigned)
Ross/Fields(or vice versa)
Iggy/JJ/Kleiza
Bargnani/Amir
Valanciunas/Vuvejic

This brings me to ask the question, if this happens aren't we almost just as weak at the sg spot as we are now at sf? I know Ross and fields will both get better but it just seems like its translating our problems to another position.

NEW RULE: A SOURCE MUST BE POSTED ON THREADS LIKE THIS...I don't actually have the ability to enforce this but it would make things a lot easier

[tucas]

Sam Shipley nba writer for sportstalkphilly.com posted that as I said earlier then Evan Massey of centerstagesports.com also tweeted it. Those are the only 2 with any credentials I've seen post it. Maybe it was just a rumour.

[LBF]

http://twitter.com/samshipley5/statu...87450753949696

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sho...php?p=22806090

da trade option DISCUSSED that's it. this guy is reporting iggy is being shopped league wide, so clearly he's talked to bryan.

[mcsemcp73]

Do the damn trade, we need to get all the losers out of town. When I mean losers I mean players who have been functioning in a loser culture and not adjusting well with the new coach.

Calderon, DeMar, JJ, Davis all of them for Iggy and Vucecic do the damn deal BC.

I 100 % agree

[geo]

honsetly if BC trades derozan now it would be the stupidest move....id give up ross+JJ+ed+ Calderon before id give derozan

[thead]

Shipley is currently being roasted on twitter for making unsubstantiated claims.