Raptors in discussion with 76ers for Igoudala (Thorn denies rumor (#163)

[enlightenment]

Steve Novak maybe?

[draftedraptor]

Vucevic - I really rate this guy. He is the real reason I don't think it is bad trade. In fact offering Demar might be the only way we get both players.

Iggy- I like what he gives 76ers. So stay there Iggy and do what you do best. Just a year ago he was under severe criticism for being paid like an elite shooter when his shooting was average. Gallinari is the top 3 in my wishlist. If we want to pay a premium then we might as well take a shot on Rudy.

Demar is 23 and still has two years and cost us only 11million over 4 years. I will trade him next year if his game doesn't improve. This will give us good time to evaluate Ross.

College stats are useless as someone already pointed out. Especially for a shooter. I remember reading some analysis on how points scored and FG% in college almost never happens in the NBA. We are one of the worst drafting teams. Even if all the scouts were wrong about a consensus late first rounder who went 8 he would still be only a role player or bench player by probability. We already have that or maybe better in Demar.

http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.co...ber-crunching/

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

I like Ross and I want him to succeed. In fact I want him to be an outlier and absolute star. That is a fan's wet dream. But I am not willing to lose Demar on the hope he will be any good. we can go the same route as warriors when they shipped Monta after evaluating their rookie.why not use Ross like Klay thomson was used. Around 20 minutes a game and if he is any good Demar is goners next summer.

Jonas Bargnani Ross Demar Lowry
Bench :Amir JJ Kleiza Fields Bayless

[tucas]

Fellas, this was a mock of blackjitz's over the top 'u can't read' rant. As for hate, go back and read the threads, you'll always find more insults directed at me than coming from me, I guarantee it.

Lol figured as much, I don't think anyone took offense to it.

[NoPropsneeded]

If Iggy's got injury problems count BC out. You guys saw what happened with Pietrus last off season

[CalgaryRapsFan]

Yup I agree that garbage wont get us a star. I dont agree that any stars available right now are worth a Derozan though. If it was Rudy Gay we were talking about, then I would probably go ahead with it, but I dont see it being very likely now that OJ Mayo has been allowed to walk. On my list of most likely to be traded (or should be traded first):

1.Kleiza
2.Johnson
3.Fields
4.Ross
5.Derozan

Fair enough. If I were BC, I would still kick the tires on Gay, with DeRozan (to replace Mayo) as the first name out of my mouth.

[Balls of Steel]

If we can sub in JJ + Ed + Calderon + Bayless? For Iggy and Vuvejic? I don't wan't anything to do with trading Demar Derozan, too much upside.

I'm sorry, Demar is hopeless. Casey threw the towel on him already. So did I.

[Balls of Steel]

Iggy's deal is one thing, his Achilles heel is another. That's all I got to say.

[Hotshot]

Allan Amin ‏@Agent365
@DeMar_DeRozan will not be traded. People shouldn't believe everything they read or hear. #raptors #WWBD

DeMar DeRozan ‏@DeMar_DeRozan
@Agent365 exactly, very true!

[NoPropsneeded]

lol the dudes right. You can't believe every rumor in free agency

[knickz]

Do the damn trade, we need to get all the losers out of town. When I mean losers I mean players who have been functioning in a loser culture and not adjusting well with the new coach.

Calderon, DeMar, JJ, Davis all of them for Iggy and Vucecic do the damn deal BC.

glad your not the gm of this team

[GameBreaker]

hey, tucas. for future refrence. you should stress discussion .so, people dont cause fuckin anarchy!

Lmao

[japetas]

We should stand pat until december and look what this young roster can do before recruiting guys with BIG contracts and injury history for our most talented guys. I believe that Lowry-DeMar-Fields-Bargnani-Valanciunas lineup with very deep bench can impress. All we need to find one average center to split minutes with Jonas (maybe sign Gray and Amir can play a little of C) and we have team with quite big potential

[=="]

100% agree here .. Lowry-DeMar-Fields-Bargnani-Valanciunas lieup looks pretty deep plus TRoss (6th man). I don't see why we need Iggy here .. plus I don't see Iggy is the impact player that Raptors are looking for maybe Gay but I guess it is impossible to get him now.

[Quirk]

Demar has too much upside, and Calderon had one of his best seasons as a raptor with Casey...

Calderon is great, but with Lowry in tow he's expendable. Fields is better than DeRozan and Ross is likely to be better soon, so DeMar is expendable as well.

Iguodala is awesome, far better than Gay, it's not even close.

http://www.thenbageek.com/players/co..._ids%5B%5D=150

Ed Davis is the one I think we'll eventually regret trading. But we do have a glut at PF. Not sure why we need Vucevik, would rather just keep Davis, but obviously if we do add Fields and Lowry, bringing in Iggy makes us a pretty legit team fast.

Assuming Lowry can replace Calderon production next year (not guaranteed) having Andre and Landry start in place of JJ ad DeMar is like 10 more wins right there. If Iggy can stay at his current level until JV becomes a force to be reckoned with and Andrea can reproduce his 13 game miracle run for a few seasons (not just a big if, a skyscraper-sized if), this could be a 50 win team in the next 3 years.

Igoudala's passing will also be a great addition, given Lowry is not the play maker Jose is.

I'm wondering if Lowry and Bayless can co-exist, though.

[mattscottnelson]

If we can sub in JJ + Ed + Calderon + Bayless? For Iggy and Vuvejic? I don't wan't anything to do with trading Demar Derozan, too much upside.

I like DD, but you have to admit that he really can't shoot...

[ebrian]

I'm not big on Iguodala either, but the offer seems pretty good. I'd only be sad to see Ed Davis go because I think he has a lot of potential. Never been a fan of DeRozan, and the ability to shed Calderon without using up the amnesty is a big bonus.

Btw, I am really sad to see Calderon go (I assume this inevitable now after the Lowry trade goes through). I like that guy a lot.. but it's just business. I would welcome him back with open arms if there were ever an opportunity to do so down the road.. at a much lower pay rate.

[Matt52]

I don't think the rumour is legit.

With that said, come December 15th until February 15 things get interesting.

What I would keep an eye on is the rumour of Brandon Rush (or any other shooter).

It just so happens that Memphis needs shooters as well to open the floor for the inside.

Always thinking Gay

[e2thed]

Do the damn trade, we need to get all the losers out of town. When I mean losers I mean players who have been functioning in a loser culture and not adjusting well with the new coach.

Calderon, DeMar, JJ, Davis all of them for Iggy and Vucecic do the damn deal BC.

glad your not the gm of this team

I didn't want to expose myself to the forums, its tearing up my heart but, I am Bryan Colangelo.

[grindhouse]

They should go after harkless

[jbml]

http://www.phillyburbs.com/sports/si...e27e1a847.html

Thorn: Nothing to trade rumor with Raptors