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    KC Johnson: Add two names to Bulls' free-agent possibles: Michael Redd and Jerryd Bayless, who just became a UFA after Toronto pulled qualifying offer. Twitter


    Ryan Wolstat: Had been told Raptors would not match any decent offer on Bayless, but not that they'd make him unrestricted. Twitter

    http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

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    I'm happy to see Bayless go, but am suprised the Raps couldn't get even a 2nd round pick in a S&T deal. There are only 2 reasons I can understand this move:

    1. The team that wants to sign him has ample cap space and won't play games with the Raptors, saying they'd rather not sign Bayless than be forced to giveup an asset to acquire him via S&T. Basically a team called Toronto's bluff of wanting to match an offer, and Toronto just let him walk so he could sign with the team in question without the hassle of the 3-day RFA waiting period. I think that's a smart, classy move on BC's behalf, to keep him in good standing among his fellow GMs (for karma and future goodwill).

    2. Toronto has a big trade brewing and needs the cap space that Bayless' qualifying offer (approx. $4.2M) is eating up. Iggy would seem to make too much sense, just based on him seeming to be a BC/DC type of veteran SF and Philly having need for a veteran PG (and possibly PF) - the match is an obvious one, especially given yesterday's rumor. Rudy Gay would be even better, but I highly doubt it's likely to happen. I suppose Deng is another possibility too.
    Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Fri Jul 6th, 2012 at 05:24 PM.

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    I actually think Bayless has tons of potential. But i think, Calderon should back-up Lowry. Think of what Lowry can gain playing with Caldy. Plus i really want Jose to retire a raptor, he deserves that at least.

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    Quote Usagi_yo_Jimbo wrote: View Post
    I actually think Bayless has tons of potential. But i think, Calderon should back-up Lowry. Think of what Lowry can gain playing with Caldy. Plus i really want Jose to retire a raptor, he deserves that at least.
    I also can't see Bayless being happy stuck in backup role behind Lowry. We saw has much he moped last year and played half-assed when he wasn't starting, playing behind an established guy... I can only imagine how much worse he'd be playing behind a guy who lost his starting job last year.

    I really like Calderon and think he's an ideal veteran backup behind Lowry. I could see the Raptors liking him for 3 reasons: first, as trade bait this offseason to land a high priced veteran SF; second, for the same reason, but at the trade deadline; third, to re-sign to a cheaper contract after the season, to be a much more affordable veteran backup to Lowry for the next 2-3 years.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I also can't see Bayless being happy stuck in backup role behind Lowry. We saw has much he moped last year and played half-assed when he wasn't starting, playing behind an established guy... I can only imagine how much worse he'd be playing behind a guy who lost his starting job last year.

    I really like Calderon and think he's an ideal veteran backup behind Lowry. I could see the Raptors liking him for 3 reasons: first, as trade bait this offseason to land a high priced veteran SF; second, for the same reason, but at the trade deadline; third, to re-sign to a cheaper contract after the season, to be a much more affordable veteran backup to Lowry for the next 2-3 years.
    id be down for calderon to back up lowry but the only issue is that lowry had issue with houston because they played dragic over him and felt like only one of them could be in houston. ironically neither are there. I honestly dont mind if calderon or bayless were our backups both have pros and cons but it will be interesting to see what BC does

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    With Jose coming off the bench he is still capable of racking up 5 or 6 assists.

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    Quote tenforthewin wrote: View Post
    Toronto trade Bayless + Fields (Sign and Trade) + Ed Davis for Andre Igoudala + Louis Williams (sign and trade)
    You know the rights to Landry Fields still belong to the Knicks, yes?

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    I wonder if this is part of a sign and trade with phili to expand on that iggy rumor. I remember reading on Doug Smith's months ago that the raptors were thinking of going after Louis Williams. They'd have to amnesty amir to do it but i think the cap would allow jose, ed, demar for iggy, vucevic and louis williams (at 8 million or so a year). Williams tweeted he's done in phili but I haven't read anything about destinations for him and this is probably a more even trade for both sides if they think their going to lose williams for nothing.

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    Keeping Calderon as a backup instead of Bayless makes more sense. As a starter, Calderon was just a notch under the rest of the starting PGs in the league, but as a backup, he is head and shoulders above any backup in the league. He will give the raps an advantage leading the second unit against any other team's reserves. Yeah it would be expensive, but if you want to win, you have to pay.

    As for Bayless, if he is going to be part of a S&T, I think (and this is me just pulling stuff out of my butt) package him, Davis and a pick for Josh Smith. Crazy as it sounds, shift Smith over to SF and all of a sudden our starting 5 would look pretty good.
    PG: Lowry/Calderon
    SG: DD/Ross/Fields
    SF: Smith/JJ/Kleiza
    PF: Bargs/Amir or Davis
    C: JoVal/Gray

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    Quote Raptorboy wrote: View Post
    Good riddance. Filled in nicely when Jose was out but too much of an individual player for my liking. PG's need to be able to create for others. Bayless could not.
    +1 he had his chance

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    Hey that means that there is room for Mr triple-double Ben Uzoh to come back yay....

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    I am sad to see Bayless go, I thought he showed a lot of swagger and he wasn't afraid to drive to the net. It wasn't till late in the season that he found his finishing touch, but unfortunately went down with another injury.

    I would've given him another chance, but I guess the Raps Brass have decided Lowry is their future point guard and have no need for Bayless. Sidenote: I really wish we could rescind the Landry Fields offer. It should be a lesson in karma for BC.

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    Quote JalenRose5 wrote: View Post
    I am sad to see Bayless go, I thought he showed a lot of swagger and he wasn't afraid to drive to the net. It wasn't till late in the season that he found his finishing touch, but unfortunately went down with another injury.

    I would've given him another chance, but I guess the Raps Brass have decided Lowry is their future point guard and have no need for Bayless. Sidenote: I really wish we could rescind the Landry Fields offer. It should be a lesson in karma for BC.
    Couldn't agree more

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    Quote Hugmenot wrote: View Post
    You know the rights to Landry Fields still belong to the Knicks, yes?
    Furthermore, he wouldn't be eligible to be traded until December.

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    Quote JalenRose5 wrote: View Post
    I am sad to see Bayless go, I thought he showed a lot of swagger and he wasn't afraid to drive to the net. It wasn't till late in the season that he found his finishing touch, but unfortunately went down with another injury.

    I would've given him another chance, but I guess the Raps Brass have decided Lowry is their future point guard and have no need for Bayless. Sidenote: I really wish we could rescind the Landry Fields offer. It should be a lesson in karma for BC.
    I don't think Bayless is starting PG material.

    But I agree completely. I would also like to add Bayless actually likes it here and it is a shame we are letting him go.

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    I have always argued for Bayless to get more PT with the Raptors & even posted my analysis on him versus Jose. I like Bayless, he's a scoring point guard who can guard. If only his ankles are not made of glass.

    We had to rescind his QO to make space for Lowry so I'm fine with it. At the end of the day, Lowry's better.

    Good luck JB!
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    HAHAHAH

    Oh man ... this was good.

    But seriously ... this is very upsetting for me.
    I had alot of time and debate invested in Bayless.


    You all watch though ... he's going to be BIG one day. You'll see.
    I foreshadow this comment for the "Dumb things Raptors Fans say" forum in the near future.

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    Quote Usagi_yo_Jimbo wrote: View Post
    I actually think Bayless has tons of potential. But i think, Calderon should back-up Lowry. Think of what Lowry can gain playing with Caldy. Plus i really want Jose to retire a raptor, he deserves that at least.
    I agree. And remember, Jose is only expensive this year (while Lowry is a steal). Re-sign Jose to a 3 year contract at a much more reasonable amount (e.g., $5M/yr) in subsequent years, and get ready to pay Lowry more if he earns it. It's nice to have a position solidly covered like this.

    P.S. Think of the good locker room influence Jose can be. How could anyone in that locker room speak up and complain that management or the coach didn't respect them, when he is sitting in the corner, working his butt out game after game?

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    Quote tenforthewin wrote: View Post
    Toronto trade Bayless + Fields (Sign and Trade) + Ed Davis for Andre Igoudala + Louis Williams (sign and trade)
    Seriously man your trades... you really need to read at least part of the CBA, even in the last couple you couldn't sign & trade a player that wasn't on your team.

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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    I foreshadow this comment for the "Dumb things Raptors Fans say" forum in the near future.
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