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    The Toronto Raptors, in a deal designed to create some additional salary-cap space, have agreed to traded forward James Johnson to the Sacramento Kings for a future second-round pick, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

    The trade could be consummated as soon as Monday, sources said./p

    Johnson is scheduled to earn $2.8 million in 2012-13, which is the final year of his current contract./p

    The Raptors, meanwhile, continue to search for a workable trade to find a new home for veteran point guard Jose Calderon. ESPN.com reported BLANKday that the Raptors and Calderon's representatives were working on a trade together in the wake of Toronto's recent acquisition of Kyle Lowry to be the starter./p

    The Raptors have let it be known that they prefer not to release Calderon through the NBA's amnesty clause, which is only an option through Tuesday until next summer's one-week amnesty window in July 2013./p

    “We have had a few more trade inquiries regarding Jose (but) the scenario doesn’t seem to present itself to a trade today," Raptors president and general manager Bryan Colangelo told the Toronto Sun at summer league in Las Vegas. "But we’ll continue to monitor that and just try to determine whether it’s going to work in the long run./p

    As for making use of the amnesty clause before Tuesday night's deadline, Colangelo told the Sun that he doesn’t “anticipate doing something with amnesty, but until the deadline passes, you never want to close that door.”/p

    Johnson averaged 9.1 points, 4.7 rebounds, 1.1 steals and 1.4 blocks per game last season but is no longer in Toronto's plans after the recent arrival of Landry Fields and Linas Kleiza's return to health.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...hnson-to-kings

    Well things just got interesting...

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    Really bad trade, I honestly think that there's a 5% chance we get a player of the same value as JJ in the second round.. our best wing defender, who's by no means a good/great/untradeable player, for a second round pick? Hmm... More minutes for Fields, DeRozan and Ross.

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    I agree. I don't like the trade. Almost none of our 2nd rounders even get a chance to play too...

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    wow didnt see that coming....well i think JJ was on his way out this off season since that incident with casey during the season. I definitly agree that this is a bad trade..but then again i dont expect a lot of value coming back for just JJ. I think BC was more concerned on getting him out than getting something back..and he prob wanted to clear cap and minutes since we got feilds. Not a fan of the move but not fully against it.

    we dont know if its straight up JJ for a second rounder i think there might be more details

    Lowry/Calderon
    Derozan/Ross
    Fields/Klezia
    Bargs/Davis/Acy
    Jval/Amir/Gray

    Thats a very deep team...and i think with a team of no superstars we can become the denver nuggets of the east.
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    Does anyone think BC intentionally goes out to find anything less than the best deal in a trade?

    Could there be a possibility JJ is valued more here than by the other 29 Gm's in the league and Colangelo?

    I don't.

    I think this speaks to his value around the league and the return is what it is.

    The only way I don't see this being the case is if BC wanted no salary back to facilitate a larger move coming.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Does anyone think BC intentionally goes out to find anything less than the best deal in a trade?

    Could there be a possibility JJ is valued more here than by the other 29 Gm's in the league and Colangelo?

    I don't.

    I think this speaks to his value around the league and the return is what it is.

    The only way I don't see this being the case is if BC wanted no salary back to facilitate a larger move coming.

    Larger move coming would make sense to me

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    Remote possibility, though I would love it if it were true: maybe it was to clear a little bit of headroom to put in a bid on Josh Childress, who just got amnestied. He would be a fantastic pickup for $2-3 million per year.

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    Quote tkfu wrote: View Post
    Remote possibility, though I would love it if it were true: maybe it was to clear a little bit of headroom to put in a bid on Josh Childress, who just got amnestied. He would be a fantastic pickup for $2-3 million per year.
    The 2007 version, absolutely.

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    Quote Raptor_11 wrote: View Post
    Larger move coming would make sense to me
    What would be the point of getting rid of a valuable SF option if this is not designed to make room for a bigger move ? Even if he had some challenging moments with DC, JJ is no locker room or cap space cancer.

    Moving him HAS to be the first of many bigger dominos.

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    Quote Fanchie wrote: View Post
    What would be the point of getting rid of a valuable SF option if this is not designed to make room for a bigger move ? Even if he had some challenging moments with DC, JJ is no locker room or cap space cancer.

    Moving him HAS to be the first of many bigger dominos.
    Honestly, I question his value.

    And I was very happy about his acquisition but potential does not always work or play out.

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    Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_SI

    Raps internally viewed James Johnson as more a small-ball power forward than a true SF. Sacto big rotation is crowded...

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    JJ is really a bench-quality player, and won't ever go beyond that.
    Whilst we could (should) have tried for more, the move is mainly about cap clearing, so can't be too picky. I hope well for him though, he showed some great d ths year.

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    Dahntay Jones ($2.9) and James Johnson ($2.8) have near identical salaries..... hmmmmmmm.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Honestly, I question his value.

    And I was very happy about his acquisition but potential does not always work or play out.
    I know that kind of maths are a bit too simple to throw in the discussion, but 9.1 points, 4.7 rebounds, 1.1 steals and 1.4 blocks per game for $2.8M is quite valuable. Of course, you'd have to take what these minutes could be used for if given to someone else, and there are some non-measurable parameters, but I think "valuable" is an ok definition of what JJ is. Not awesome, but not useless.

    We discussed his value for months and months to compare it to the late 1st rounder we gave away to get him. And the conclusion was that having him on the team was better than having this pick. And now we would be saying that a 2nd rounder is more valuable than JJ ?

    Don't get me wrong : i'm fine with this deal cause with Fields in, he's the one who has to go (Kleiza will be a huge help for Jonas acclimatation, I don't want him anywhere else than in TO). It's just not a deal BC needed to do (after all, we have 3 PF and we drafted a 4th one) so if he did it, it has to be for a bigger reason.

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    Why give away James Johnson ?!! WHY !

    Sad times. I really like him as a help side defender & I thought of him more as a power forward as well. I don't get what you make out of a future second rounder.

    For all the hype BC got from the Lowry trade, his past 2 moves really irks me.
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    Quote torch19 wrote: View Post
    Why give away James Johnson ?!! WHY !

    Sad times. I really like him as a help side defender & I thought of him more as a power forward as well. I don't get what you make out of a future second rounder.

    For all the hype BC got from the Lowry trade, his past 2 moves really irks me.
    To clear some room, you have to make transactions like this. We didn't give him away for nothing (we got a 2nd rounder for it). Besides, he was clashing with DC. I'm surprised it has taken this long.
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    at least it'll be a high second rounder!
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    I'm guessing but this is what I think happens:

    Dallas: Calderon
    Toronto: Dahntay Jones
    Boston: Terry


    Terry is $5M and Jones $2.9M

    That is 7.9M

    150% of 7.9 is 11.85

    If memory serves correct, Jose has a trade kicker of 10%.

    His $10.5 becomes $11.55 in a trade.

    So, if this goes down, Toronto is about to free up $10.4M in cap space..... with no backup PG.

    If this happens, and it is purely speculation on my part, I hope BC finally does something with the f*cking flexibility. I'm getting tired of hearing about flexibility that leads to nothing.

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    So you're essentially trading Jose Calderon and James Johnson .... for Dahntay Jones ? s m d h Colangelo ..... if this ever goes down, I wouldn't know what to think.
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    This one hurts my soul. Deeply.


    I've never questioned BCs motives ... until today. He better pull out something BIG to follow this up.
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