Secondly you have made arguments about BC and the media. What you fail to understand is those arguments are baseless and frankly further show your ignorance about how a multi tiered, billion dollar, publicly traded company is run. I provided the link to MLSEs sales department. It clearly states they sell Raptors Broadcasts and other NBA broadcasts. BC is an EMPLOYEE of MLSE responsible for the ON COURT product of the NBA TEAM. He has no say in their marketing campaigns, promotions, community outreach, television or radio Broadcasts. He has NOTHING to do with the guys in the booth, the guys in the media scrum, the guys who call the game or run the in house contests. He does not choose who or where to sell the individual game packages to.
BC is responsible for players and staff that deal directly with the players (i.e. doctors, trainers, equipment handlers, spokesmen, math heads, etc) he and his team make decisions that will obviously affect the profit margin of his department and then present those decisions to a board of governors who say yay or nay. That's it. Do you really think he has time to approve ads and sit down with TSN to negotiate per game fees? The media plan is devised by the media company (one similar to the one I work for and it changes quite often) hired by MLSE not the Raptors directly (I personally know this to be true because I have worked directly on MLSE content in the past). Your argument is fundamentally flawed, like James Johnsons jumper, baseless and untrue no matter how you want to reword it. BC is NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING TO DO WITH HOW THE TEAM IS PRESENTED TO US.
Last edited by minks77; Mon Jul 16th, 2012 at 04:15 PM.
You childish, uneducated, smelly, fat fool!!!!! (see how it adds nothing).
theres got to be some link between what happens on the court and what gets covered in the media. "Pound the Rock" is a good example. I imagine that BC definitely OK'd the decision to use that as the team's marketing basis last season. The media coverage and the bball product are not mutually exclusive. The media department was probably not running JJ commercials this week, becuase BC would have let them know something is up. At least this is the way it should work. BC should be in charge of the outword messaging regarding his product. If he isn't then he's not doing a good enough job in that area. This extends to the establishment of a strategy on where the team gets coverage.
Also thank you to Matt, planetmars and others who have posted counter points without getting petty.
The fact is, you stated 5 (I think) arguments as to why BC should be fired. The 5th one was all about blaming BC for the Raptors broadcast schedule, the programming on Raptors TV (actually is NBA Canada now) and the Raptors announcers (tv? radio? courtside?).
It's one thing to have a difference of opinion that can be debated (ie: the JJ trade). It's an entirely different matter when the basis (at least 1 of 5 points) for one side of the argument is rooted in claims that are entirely wrong. If BC was actually responsible for any/all of those things, then we could debate the merits of your claim. However, your claim itself was "ignorant", because the logic/rationale that brought you to the conclusion to make it (BC being responsible) was faulty, hence the ignorance of the claims included in your 5th point.
We weren't insulting you by calling you ignorant; we were calling the claims that BC was responsible for those TV related issues ignorant because you presented them as the truth when, in fact, they are completely wrong. I can't formally speak for Minks77, but I can tell you that none of my responses to you were meant to be insulting or disrespectful. I was just trying to point out the errors behind your 5th point.
Truth hurts sometimes.
I stated that the JJ trade neither here nor there, as he was a bench player and we probably got about his value in return.
I still disagree that BC has nothing to do with the sad state of RapsTV. Somebody needs to be accountable and he's the face of the raptors' leadership team. He's not working on that side day-to-day, but he's got the power to advocate for improvements. and hey, maybe "nba canada" or whatev it got re-branded to will be a step in the right direction.
I do appreciate your clarification tho.
he can't even stand up there and buy time any more. He has held press conferences SELLing us on Fred Jones, TJ ford, Kapono, Hedo, Alabi, Johnson (he's so chiseled now).
All because he keeps trying to fix his fucking Bargs blunder 7 years later and the guy has ensured we have the weakest from court in the league save 20 games.
Last edited by charlz; Mon Jul 16th, 2012 at 05:39 PM.
"I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"
Exactly. Doug Smith said JJ would have inconsistent practices, and seemed disinterested most of the time. Not to mention that he was suspended for 2 games for butting heads with Casey. His stats are inflated because he got minutes he shouldnt have gotten in the first place. And he is far too much of a gambler on defence. The Raps need the Cap Space and JJ would have been behind Fields, and LK at the 3.
The concept that Bryan Colangelo has turned good assets into bad ones is based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of how assets work in the NBA. All assets in the NBA depreciate over the long term. Therefore if you follow any asset for long enough, it becomes worthless.
Think about it this way. When Tim Duncan retires, what will the Spurs have left from their number one pick? Nothing. That asset is used up. It won them 4 championships, though, so that's not bad.
When a draft pick becomes an unrestricted free agent, it is pretty much as if that asset vanished. You can re-sign the draft pick, but you're using up cap space the same way anyone else would be if they signed that pick. So it is hardly surprising that not much value is left from the Bosh drft pick: his contract expired. There is nothing Colangelo could do to stop at from happening. At the time he did the reasonable thing: he tried to build a team around Chris that could win some games
In fact one year they had him playing 3 with Bosh at 4 and JO at 5. He has gone from 5 to 3 back to 5. Not good for a players development when he cant figure out what position he has to play.
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