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Thread: OFFICIAL: James Johnson sent to Kings for 2nd Rounder

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    Raptors Republic Rookie JStockton's Avatar
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    Quote Risk Mgmt wrote: View Post
    Bro JStockton,

    I'm a wookie and was trying to show your quote responding to the original quote of the individual hating this trade.
    But only your quote appeard.

    My error sir and I mean no harm to you nor anyone. But yes am in agreement....this move was okay and have no complains on it. We move forward.

    Keep pounding the Rock BC until we have a diamond.
    Point taken. We are both rookies after all.

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    "it's OK if an agent bends him over backward because it happens to others as well"

    I've already made arguments that BC is accountable for the high level media plan of the team.
    First off that wasn't my point nor a quote of anything I said. You obviously want to believe he's too nice to the agents who are incredibly powerful. So you think its a bad idea to do good business with people who have the power to really help or screw you down the road? for real?

    Secondly you have made arguments about BC and the media. What you fail to understand is those arguments are baseless and frankly further show your ignorance about how a multi tiered, billion dollar, publicly traded company is run. I provided the link to MLSEs sales department. It clearly states they sell Raptors Broadcasts and other NBA broadcasts. BC is an EMPLOYEE of MLSE responsible for the ON COURT product of the NBA TEAM. He has no say in their marketing campaigns, promotions, community outreach, television or radio Broadcasts. He has NOTHING to do with the guys in the booth, the guys in the media scrum, the guys who call the game or run the in house contests. He does not choose who or where to sell the individual game packages to.

    BC is responsible for players and staff that deal directly with the players (i.e. doctors, trainers, equipment handlers, spokesmen, math heads, etc) he and his team make decisions that will obviously affect the profit margin of his department and then present those decisions to a board of governors who say yay or nay. That's it. Do you really think he has time to approve ads and sit down with TSN to negotiate per game fees? The media plan is devised by the media company (one similar to the one I work for and it changes quite often) hired by MLSE not the Raptors directly (I personally know this to be true because I have worked directly on MLSE content in the past). Your argument is fundamentally flawed, like James Johnsons jumper, baseless and untrue no matter how you want to reword it. BC is NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING TO DO WITH HOW THE TEAM IS PRESENTED TO US.
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    Quote minks77 wrote: View Post
    First off that wasn't my point nor a quote of anything I said. You obviously want to believe he's too nice to the agents who are incredibly powerful. So you think its a bad idea to do good business with people who have the power to really help or screw you down the road? for real?

    Secondly you have made arguments about BC and the media. What you fail to understand is those arguments are baseless and frankly further show your ignorance about how a multi tiered, billion dollar, publicly traded company is run. I provided the link to MLSEs sales department. It clearly states they sell Raptors Broadcasts and other NBA broadcasts. BC is an EMPLOYEE of MLSE responsible for the ON COURT product of the NBA TEAM. He has no say in their marketing campaigns, promotions, community outreach, television or radio Broadcasts. He has NOTHING to do with the guys in the booth, the guys in the media scrum, the guys who call the game or run the in house contests. He does not choose who or where to sell the individual game packages to.

    BC is responsible for players and staff that deal directly with the players (i.e. doctors, trainers, equipment handlers, spokesmen, math heads, etc) he and his team make decisions that will obviously affect the profit margin of his department and then present those decisions to a board of governors who say yay or nay. That's it. Do you really think he has time to approve ads and sit down with TSN to negotiate per game fees? The media plan is devised by the media company (one similar to the one I work for and it changes quite often) hired by MLSE not the Raptors directly (I personally know this to be true because I have worked directly on MLSE content in the past). Your argument is fundamentally flawed, like James Johnsons jumper, baseless and untrue no matter how you want to reword it. BC is NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING TO DO WITH HOW THE TEAM IS PRESENTED TO US.
    I understand this is the internet, but please can somebody post a rebuttle/coutnerpoint without resorting to "youre ignorant!" Jeeze guys, youre never going to win an argument while directly insulting your opposition. In fact, insults like these virtually guarantee you will not reach consensus.

    You childish, uneducated, smelly, fat fool!!!!! (see how it adds nothing).

    theres got to be some link between what happens on the court and what gets covered in the media. "Pound the Rock" is a good example. I imagine that BC definitely OK'd the decision to use that as the team's marketing basis last season. The media coverage and the bball product are not mutually exclusive. The media department was probably not running JJ commercials this week, becuase BC would have let them know something is up. At least this is the way it should work. BC should be in charge of the outword messaging regarding his product. If he isn't then he's not doing a good enough job in that area. This extends to the establishment of a strategy on where the team gets coverage.

    Also thank you to Matt, planetmars and others who have posted counter points without getting petty.