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People see the big assist numbers low turnovers and great coach-ability and they are infatuated with Calderon. But in Reality he is a 2nd string PG who ranks among the worst defensively in the history of the game. And these days he has a hard time even getting his shot off the bounce. All he can do is be an average spot up shooter.
"I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"
Didn't jl3 light us up in that big come back in Chicago? He hit like 2 threes
Depends how you look at it. If he's signed as a 3rd string it's a great signing. If he's signed as the 2nd string...not so much.I'm not getting overly excited about the potential signing because I can't say I've actually ever seen him play. I mean, is this really a great signing?
Perhaps when we know the financial numbers I'll feel better. I just know he's always had high expectations (likely because of how successful his father was) and has never met them. Like you said, for a 3rd stringer it can't hurt, but depending on what they do with Jose we're in trouble if there's any prospect of him being a back-up to Lowry.
High expectations??Perhaps when we know the financial numbers I'll feel better. I just know he's always had high expectations (likely because of how successful his father was) and has never met them. Like you said, for a 3rd stringer it can't hurt, but depending on what they do with Jose we're in trouble if there's any prospect of him being a back-up to Lowry.
He went undrafted and worked his ass off to get into and then back into the league, if his career ends tomorrow he's overachieved.
I'm a fan of JL3 and think he will do very well for us.
Kyle Lowry is most certainly not a back-up point guard... He's ridden that title awhile ago just letting you know.
Lowry said he wants to be among the top tier PGs in the league. That is the very first time I've ever heard a Raptors say that. Vince Carter was there so he did not need to say that when he was playing here.
How could we not at least question this? I don't care if the Bulls or Heat wanted him, those are teams chock full of superstars and can afford one player on their team that can't shoot. Casey said we need more shooters, so Colangelo goes and gets Lucas, a guy who has never broken 40% shooting in his 4 year NBA career?
On the plus side he's 5% more accurate than Ben Uzoh...
Wanting to be a top-tier point guard is different than being known as a back-up point guard.
His performances this past season pre-injury granted him a top 10 spot. He's not a top-tier point guard yet, and he's not a back-up point guard. I would put him in the second tier of point guards such as Jennings, Curry, Irving, LOWRY, John Wall, Rubio...
You are right. I did not say that he is a top tier. I said he wants to be in a top tier. He also said that he is a currently a tier two PG.
LOL, sorry, it's just I didn't read from the passage whether you were trying to disagree with me, or was support my argument.You are right. I did not say that he is a top tier. I said he wants to be in a top tier. He also said that he is a currently a tier two PG.
39.3 last year is pretty darn close
If he is good enough for contenders third string surely he is good enough for the raps, no? That was all I meant.
Might help BC in negotiation of Calderon trade having a reserve PG on roster. Less weakness in negotiation.I'm not getting overly excited about the potential signing because I can't say I've actually ever seen him play. I mean, is this really a great signing?
Good point. I really hope he hasn't given up on trading him. Competition between pg's is good but I think Jose deserves to move on
Jose is just crappy and the sooner he is gone the better. I'm just hoping that they can get out of it without taking an awful player back. Still, a different awful player would have to be better than the one we have.
John Lucas will be a capable backup and the combination of him and Lowry will be a huge upgrade.
I just hope they sign Devoe Joseph as well...
The cat in the hat is back again. You have been typing the same thing for this entire thread. Enough already. We get your point. That's your opinion. Why is he crappy in your eyes?
See, I think Bayless is a far superior player to John Lucas III. Their weaknesses are the same, but Bayless is a lot better at using his strengths (I think I have said this before in this thread), so I really do not think it would make any sense for BC to release one capable (I wouldn't say "solid") backup guard in Bayless, trade our current backup (Jose), just to take on a PG who is no where near as talented as either of them. I really doubt JLIII is the primary backup, and third string is all that would make sense to me.
John Lucas and Lowry would be no where near as good as Jose and Lowry, but that is just me (and all stats show that, and popular belief is behind that). But who knows?
He's just a 3rd string quality player. He loses games, that's what he does. I'd like to have winners on the team. He'd probably be a backup in Europe but we got stuck with him here.
Sorry but Jose's poor attitude would ruin this situation making Lucas the better fit. Every time Jose is made the backup he sulks and pouts and manipulates his teammates and talks about how with his big contract he should be the starter.
Sorry, but his time is up.
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