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    Free-agent guard Jonny Flynn worked out with the Cavaliers on Monday and performed well for General Manager Chris Grant and coach Byron Scott, according to an NBA source. Flynn (6-0, 185) played in 29 games for Portland and Houston last season, averaging 4.5 points and 3.3 assists. He could serve as a backup point guard to Kyrie Irving, thought that slot also could be filled by Donald Sloan, who finished last season in that position. Sloan performed well in the Cavaliers' summer league game Monday, leading a fourth-quarter rally and finishing with 19 points on 5-for-8 shooting.

    Flynn also is considering Chicago, Atlanta, Toronto and Orlando, according to an NBA source.

    cleveland : Cleveland Cavaliers hold workout with free-agent guard Jonny Flynn

    Why not fill the roster with this kid...young...we can give him a non guarantee contract....another James Johnson risk.

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    We just need to try rejuvenate him to his Rookie Stat level...we failed with JJ...but this is how you find gems...but taking such risks.

    Does he have the same potential as did James Johnson when we first got him back in 2011?
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    I'd say it's low risk.

    Raptors said he wasn't under consideration already anyways.

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    Does it make sense to bring in a 4th PG (assuming Lucas is a done deal) before Calderon is traded?
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    Flynn is a tricky proposition. He recently (last yr I believe) had a hip operation. He has also failed to stick with Minny and Houston and I am unsure about his defense. At best I believe he would be at the John Lucas level and thats not saying much. I would rather try to mine the undrafted/unsigned rolls in the hope of finding a nugget.

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    Scott Machado!!!
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    Aight,

    All your comments are fair ...I just thought he would be close to home and all - that may make a difference etc.
    In general, you all think for player at his level being home makes a big difference...I suppose not too much.

    But you all have made valid points and thus i guess we can close this Thread.

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    Seems pointless after John Lucas 3

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    Great low risk move for raptors, could be the guy to replace calderon if he get's traded.

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    Quote tucas wrote: View Post
    Seems pointless after John Lucas 3
    If i'm picking between John Lucas 3 or Johnny Flyn for 3rd string - I pick Flynn who has more upside (bez uzoh will be there if flynn gets hurt)

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    i know casey doesn't want anymore rookies but +1. not sure if players on other summer league teams can be offered contracts by other teams but if we can i would grab this kid. i also think flynn would be a better back up then lucas if he were to be 2nd stringer

    all this based on jose being moved.

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    Assuming that Jose will be traded and Lowry and Lucas are already in the roster, adding Flynn another small point guard is a risky proposition. I think the main back-up behind Lowry should be a bigger PG so there is balance.

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    Seems pointless after John Lucas 3
    Yes, I agree with you.

    But lets face it after JOSE our backup PG depth really falls off....Competition between the two backups or three will only make things better I would think for them and the team. I'm sure these guys can also fit into other spots as things progress and the contracts are cheap non-guarantee types for the backups.

    I'm simply trying to replicate the Jays Formula of High-Risk-High Reward formula...they have done well except for the freak injury bug. I hope The Raptors are healthy through out the season and all our key players are up to it.

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    I hate Jonny Flynn, don't understand why people think he can play. He's too small, not smart enough and not nearly fast enough to make it work on just speed alone.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    I'd say it's low risk.

    Raptors said he wasn't under consideration already anyways.
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    Quote Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    i know casey doesn't want anymore rookies but +1. not sure if players on other summer league teams can be offered contracts by other teams but if we can i would grab this kid. i also think flynn would be a better back up then lucas if he were to be 2nd stringer

    all this based on jose being moved.
    +1 Yes other teams can offer a contract to a player from another summer league team.

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    Quote JStockton wrote: View Post
    +1 Yes other teams can offer a contract to a player from another summer league team.
    thank you

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    Stat wise...

    Only have 29gm sample of Flynn..thus you can see a comparison of stats between lucas and him.
    Injury being the key issue with Flynn at present. He will find a home soon...Bulls / Cavaliers

    Oh well.

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    Quote Risk Mgmt wrote: View Post
    We just need to try rejuvenate him to his Rookie Stat level...we failed with JJ...but this is how you find gems...but taking such risks.

    Does he have the same potential as did James Johnson when we first got him back in 2011?
    No.

    Jonny Flynn sucked the past two years and there is nothing to suggest he will not do so again. You can live with him as a below-average backup point guard for a season or two, but you should always keep a look out for an upgrade.

    He's a low risk because he won't suck as much as mid season pickups like Donald Sloan for example, but also low reward in my opinion because I don't think he will ever amount to more than a below-average backup PG. If by a gem, you mean zirconia cubic, then he may well fit that definition.

    I believe JJ failed himself much more than the Raptors failed with JJ. He was certainly given the opportunity to succeed but failed on the court and in the locker room. I think he's the type of player who will either become a useful rotation in the next two or three years, or out of the NBA; I think he does not have the type of personality you want as an end-of-bench player.
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