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Thread: Youth and Financial Freedom: Raps current roster beyond 2012-13

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    If a GM ever predicates his moves on fan reactions then he's stupid and should be fired. I don't get what your point is? BC hasn't changed his philosophy towards building a team since he got here. It's build, but keep flexability, get nowhere, rebuild, be an above average team, fall off a little, retool, rebuild ect. I can't think of a team in this league that is both in great financial standing, but also contending yearly. OKC is unique in that they've still got rookie contracts on two stars. We're going to be paying in the doublefigures for DeRozan, Lowry, Bargs and almost Fields in a few years assuming the team stays in tact for the most part. We'd also have Ross and Val to worry about, not to mention Davis if he develops as expected. We'll be cash strapped soon with a ceiling that stops just short of contending. Woop be excited about our potential. I've been a fan since 2000 and I'd say I've had plenty of reasons withing that time to lose patience. You're telling me it was smart to overpay on two contracts to compete on a limited level for a couple years? Really? Thank god it didn't work out. My point is this is as good as it gets with BC. Don't expect a better roster because this guy finds a way to not deliver every time. Sure he'll have the cash and assets but he'll get a J.O'neall or a Turkoglu cause he doesn't understand the concept of winning big.

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    Quote jimmyhunter wrote: View Post
    If a GM ever predicates his moves on fan reactions then he's stupid and should be fired. I don't get what your point is? BC hasn't changed his philosophy towards building a team since he got here. It's build, but keep flexability, get nowhere, rebuild, be an above average team, fall off a little, retool, rebuild ect. I can't think of a team in this league that is both in great financial standing, but also contending yearly. OKC is unique in that they've still got rookie contracts on two stars. We're going to be paying in the doublefigures for DeRozan, Lowry, Bargs and almost Fields in a few years assuming the team stays in tact for the most part. We'd also have Ross and Val to worry about, not to mention Davis if he develops as expected. We'll be cash strapped soon with a ceiling that stops just short of contending. Woop be excited about our potential. I've been a fan since 2000 and I'd say I've had plenty of reasons withing that time to lose patience. You're telling me it was smart to overpay on two contracts to compete on a limited level for a couple years? Really? Thank god it didn't work out. My point is this is as good as it gets with BC. Don't expect a better roster because this guy finds a way to not deliver every time. Sure he'll have the cash and assets but he'll get a J.O'neall or a Turkoglu cause he doesn't understand the concept of winning big.
    You haven't seen the team play and gel together where it really matters, on the court, & you're already writing them off.. Every team wants to contend and win a championship, but there are 30 teams in this league, & only 1 winner... An organization bringing in success every year, making money, making fans happy, & having players work hard in their job day in and day out is something I prefer than a one time team to win one championship, than be back on stage one. From a non-basketball related stand-point, the Chicago Blackhawks were that team in 2010 I believe it was. The Dallas Mavericks.. Look where they are now? A championship team to a mediocre bunch, after trying to score, score, and score on a free agent.

    The poster said it best earlier, we aren't the Lakers, we aren't the Celtics, we aren't the Knicks..
    This is the only way we can build a good team, through trades, having to overpay in free agency, and the draft.. We aren't attracting anyone right now with nothing but our flexibility...

    You tell me what BC's philosophy is and whay hasn't changed, because our most knowledgable posters and many others really believe we've made successful moves moving in a DIRECTION towards the ultimate goal.

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    Quote jimmyhunter wrote: View Post
    If a GM ever predicates his moves on fan reactions then he's stupid and should be fired. I don't get what your point is? BC hasn't changed his philosophy towards building a team since he got here. It's build, but keep flexability, get nowhere, rebuild, be an above average team, fall off a little, retool, rebuild ect. I can't think of a team in this league that is both in great financial standing, but also contending yearly. OKC is unique in that they've still got rookie contracts on two stars. We're going to be paying in the doublefigures for DeRozan, Lowry, Bargs and almost Fields in a few years assuming the team stays in tact for the most part. We'd also have Ross and Val to worry about, not to mention Davis if he develops as expected. We'll be cash strapped soon with a ceiling that stops just short of contending. Woop be excited about our potential. I've been a fan since 2000 and I'd say I've had plenty of reasons withing that time to lose patience. You're telling me it was smart to overpay on two contracts to compete on a limited level for a couple years? Really? Thank god it didn't work out. My point is this is as good as it gets with BC. Don't expect a better roster because this guy finds a way to not deliver every time. Sure he'll have the cash and assets but he'll get a J.O'neall or a Turkoglu cause he doesn't understand the concept of winning big.
    Agree that a GM shouldn't predicate his moves on fan reaction. Disagree that BC hasn't changed his philosophy. I think that we have seen two different philosophical approaches from BC since he came here. One in the pre-Bosh era and the other post-Bosh. When he took over the team, his philosophy was to build a fast paced team around Bosh for instant success which he attained to some extent(executive of the year followed by another visit to the play-offs). With the hope of making us better, he ended up making moves that in hindsight were mistakes(J O Neal, Hedo and the worst of them all losing Bosh for nothing). After a brief effort to re-tool came a philosophical change. Rebuilding. With Dwane Caseys hiring we started working towards not only a culture(offense oriented to defense oriented) change but creating Cap flexibility. He has made his share of mistakes both in