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    Default who will have most positive impact on Raptors BIG V or TROSS?

    I hope this wasnt already discussed....if yes, my apologies in advance.


    With all the hype with BIG V and lots of positive feedback on TROSS (TREX)....which one will have most positive impact on Raptors who will challenge for Rookie of the year or closest thing to it? Trex or Bigv

    I'm going with TROSS on this one. This because I havent seen anything of BIG V.

    Regardless we have some good rookie level talent and I see good things happening this coming season.

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    Both have qualities that Raptors haven't seen in a long time. Personally, I think Big V will have more of an impact because the Raps haven't had a solid starting center for years (both Bosh and Bargnani are more ept to play the PF). As for TRoss, he has the shooting ability that we haven't seen from anyone since Kapono (and he was a bust in T.O., let's face it). He will be able to make up for DeRozan's horrible shooting ability and will be a nice 6th man, or even starting SG, moving DeRozan to his natural 3-spot.

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    "Demar will be on the All-Star Ballot this year - watch for it"
    Where is that quote from? He was last year.

    http://www.nba.com/2012/news/01/04/2...lot/index.html

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    My initial reaction is to say that Ross will have a more immediate impact given that it's far easier for SGs and SFs to adjust to the NBA game than it is for big men. Centers impact teams by distorting the game (see Shaq, Yao, Howard, etc.) and I don't think JV is going to be able to make that kind of an impact in his first season. Long term, if Jonas is everything he's hyped to be then it shouldn't be all that close...

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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    moving DeRozan to his natural 3-spot.
    Anyone have an idea where and when this DeRozan is a 3 movement started? I'd be curious to find out.

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    Anyone have an idea where and when this DeRozan is a 3 movement started? I'd be curious to find out.
    Probably the moment Ross was drafted
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    Anyone have an idea where and when this DeRozan is a 3 movement started? I'd be curious to find out.
    his game is more ept to play at sf. when he was drafted, everyone talked about his athleticism, but he hasn't been showcasing it. if he plays at the SF he'll be facing slower guys.

    plus he's a poor ball handler, which makes him easy to guard at the 2-spot

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    Probably the moment Ross was drafted
    No, I think Ross was drafted to push DeMar a little harder at the 2 spot. No consistency or step-up from DeMar this season and he'll likely be gonzo next summer. JMO!

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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    his game is more ept to play at sf. when he was drafted, everyone talked about his athleticism, but he hasn't been showcasing it. if he plays at the SF he'll be facing slower guys.

    plus he's a poor ball handler, which makes him easy to guard at the 2-spot
    So the basis is because he's not a good SG he must be a better SF?

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    So the basis is because he's not a good SG he must be a better SF?
    supposedly...

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    I think JV will have the bigger impact. Being a rookie I don't think they design many plays for Ross to score and to have an impact Ross needs to score as that is the primary skill set he brings to the table. JV, as the C on the other hand just needs to be active and rebound to have the same impact as any of our starting C's from last year as there were none that were overly skilled. He will likely come off the bench at the start of the season and will benefit from playing next to a great pick and roll pg like Jose, whom I'm expecting to be here at the beginning of the season. JV from the limited video I've seen excels at the pick and roll.

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    Quote Doc Naismith wrote: View Post
    No, I think Ross was drafted to push DeMar a little harder at the 2 spot. No consistency or step-up from DeMar this season and he'll likely be gonzo next summer. JMO!
    +1

    I would only add he could likely be gone before the trade deadline.

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    JV will have more of an impact - he will get rebounds blocks, and easy buckets, TROSS needs to have a good shooting night to be effe

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    But JV will also get in foul trouble some nights....so they will both be have inconsistent positive impacts throughout the season...such is life with NBA rookies. I guess the real question is who will be more consistent.

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    Considering their respective competition for minutes, I can see Jonas (battling Gray) playing significantly more minutes than Ross (battling DeRozan). That alone might give Jonas the edge.
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    I think TRoss will be able to contribute right away, i think he will finish somewhere around 11ppg, 5rpg, 2apg, 2spg in his rookie season where as Big V will finish around 8ppg, 10rpg, 2apg, 1spg, 2bpg but both will be considered in the rookie vs sophomore game but i suspect Big V will be in it as opposed to Ross, there are other guards and SF who will edge Ross out of this year's game.

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    I feel optimistic that both will be above average players if not stars, Knowing that big men take a little longer to develop, I'd say that Ross will make an immediate impact.

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    But JV will also get in foul trouble some nights....so they will both be have inconsistent positive impacts throughout the season...such is life with NBA rookies. I guess the real question is who will be more consistent.
    JV will be the like Amir when he first got here. Always in foul trouble. Funny thing is many didn't think Amir would get out of that problem but he did.

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    From what I've seen so far, valanciunas gets into more foul trouble than Amir, that could severely cripple his minutes going forward. Ross will be fighting minutes with Demar so he'll have fewer minutes to begin with. That being said I think Ross will have an immediate impact but valanciunas could grow to be our franchise player.

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    Where is that quote from? He was last year.

    http://www.nba.com/2012/news/01/04/2...lot/index.html

    no source for the quote...I just put it out myself putting my neck on the line by saying he will have a breakout year.
    This year will be far better for Demar as compared to his past years in the NBA. better stats overall.

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