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    I think Calderon will be with the Raptors unless part of trade for Iiguodala.
    It seems to me over the past 2-3 years the Raptors even with 2 good point guards still were struggling at that position because of injuries. So it is never a good idea to be too thin at this position.

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    Book it,he will blow a hamestring in London.

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    Quote Risk Mgmt wrote: View Post
    His performance at the Olympics will play a factor in this question.
    They want him shipped ASAP but not for nothing.

    I think he will remain a Raptor Until the deadline
    Not entirely true.

    I think they would trade him for nothing i.e. no contract coming back.

    I don't think they want to take back any money unless it is part of a deal for a star SF.

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    On the bench playing 18-24 minutes a game where he can (hopefully) run the pick and roll with JV against second unit bigs for the first half of the season.

    Also, this is my first post...loooooong time reader, but decided to limit to reading till now. So yeah, looking forward to this!

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    Looks like BC is in no hurry to trade him even though there are offers on the table. This is understandable because he's in a "nothing to lose" position. I mean, if he doesn't trade him at all he has a starting caliber back up PG and he'll come of the books at the end of the season. If he does trade him, he will do so only if he gets what he wants. A good position to be in actually. I have a feeling that he'll wait and do something at the trade dead line.

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    Quote Quito wrote: View Post
    On the bench playing 18-24 minutes a game where he can (hopefully) run the pick and roll with JV against second unit bigs for the first half of the season.

    Also, this is my first post...loooooong time reader, but decided to limit to reading till now. So yeah, looking forward to this!
    Welcome my friend. Nice to have you here.

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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    I'm not a fan of the "make it a competition and see who grabs it" idea. Often in that case, you have to choose one guy, so you do. He does all right but when he inevitably has a bad run, you turn to the other guy. He does well, then he falters. These guys have been around too long (Calderon more so) to do that. It would be great if they're both around but if that's the case, I hope Bryan and Dwayne have a good idea in their minds as to how to use them and that they can communicate it to the players.
    I think you misunderstood me. I think they went to the media saying Lowry would be the starter to diffuse any notions that Lowry might have (because he already had a history of being annoyed by not being the starter in Houston). Meanwhile, Jose gets mad. The best strategy is to go into the camp telling both that they will each get a lot of minutes, and have them compete. 100% of the time with coach Casey's requirements, Lowry will end up the starter.

    But you've diffused the situation for Jose because instead of thinking "Aw fack it all, these bastards again have tried to replace me and they put in some dude that wasn't even a starter in Houston!", now instead he's thinking "Well, fair is fair he played better than me and deserves it, but gee golly willickers if he gets hurt or anything, I'm gonna step up and play real good. Real good!"

    I think Calderon comes off the bench a lot more willingly if Lowry proved to be better than if you give it to Lowry outright.

    Again, I'll emphasize that regardless of what is said, Lowry is 100% the starter.
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    Toronto. Better question is where will he be after the trade deadline.

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    I think unless the Raptors actually get something worthwhile for him, they won't trade him just for the sake of trading (ŗ la Barbosa - for "flexibility").

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    that video is amazing
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    that video is amazing
    Jose gains that much more respect from me, not that it means shit lol.

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    Colangelo should e-mail this video to the 29 other GMs in the league first thing tomorrow morning...

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    Default Jose Calderon Trade Destinations

    Just read this and thought I would share:

    http://o.canada.com/2012/07/24/jose-...-destinations/

    Philadelphia 76ers

    Andre Iguodala has been on the block for a while and the Sixers loaded up on wings this summer, picking up Moe Harkless, Nick Young and Dorell Wright. Iguodala was linked into the Raptors in a rumour that would send Jose Calderon and DeMar DeRozan to Philadelphia, however GM Rod Thorn denied it.

    The Sixers lost Lou Williams to the Atlanta Hawks and donít have a capable backup for Jrue Holiday. DeMar DeRozan also is heading into a contract year and the Raptors invested their 2012 8th overall selection in Terrence Ross, who he does serve as insurance in case DeRozan gets moved in a trade.

    This is a deal that could possibly be revisited during the trade deadline depending how the first half of the 2012-13 season plays out.
    New Orleans Hornets

    The Hornets are trying to convert Austin Rivers into a point guard and their efforts have been met with mixed results. Rivers is a gifted scorer in isolation situations, however struggles to create for others. He has primarily played shooting guard over his career and switching to a new position at the NBA level is no easy task. The point guard position is the hardest position to learn in the league.

    The only Hornet capable of playing point is Greivis Vasquez, who was a pleasant surprise last season, but is more of a combo-guard. With scorers like Eric Gordon and athletes like Anthony Davis, Jose Calderon would be the perfect distributor for the Hornets.

    A possible trade would involve Brad Millerís non-guaranteed contract, cap hit of only $848,000 if waived prior to July 30, and salary filler like Xavier Henry, who has been a large disappointment since he step foot into the NBA.

    The pieces coming back are not going to improve the team on the court, but by waiving Millerís guaranteed portion of his contract, the Raptors can create cap room to sign another free agent. They would receive immediate cap savings of over $7 million with this trade.

    Andrei Kirilenko has announced his intentions of playing in the NBA next season, and despite his age, he would be an upgrade over the current batch of small forwards in Toronto.
    San Antonio Spurs

    Like the Mavericks, Heat and the Lakers, the Spurs did have interest in Calderon, but only if he was waived through the amnesty provision. The deadline has passed however a deal could still be had.

    Despite signing French combo-guard Nando De Colo, the Spurs are still looking for a point guard to play behind Tony Parker. They were seriously interested in Bo McCalebb, a star in Macedonia and the Euroleague, but due to his buyout, the team canít sign him.

    A possible trade would involve Stephen Jackson, who is included for salary matching purposes, and Pickering, Ont. native Cory Joseph, who the Raptors were targeting at the 2011 NBA Draft. Joseph has played very well in the NBDL last season and earned All-Star honours for his strong performance at the 2012 Las Vegas Summer League.

    Jacksonís disruptive attitude would be a cause for concern, but the team could always handle him the way the Chicago Bulls handled Tim Thomas during the 2005-06 regular season. Sending him home would give him more time to work on his rap career.

    Worst case scenario, the Raptors can just waive him or try to move him to a third team. His expiring contract would be very useful during the trade deadline.
    Cleveland Cavaliers

    The Cavaliers have not replaced Sessionsí vacant spot since he was moved to the Lakers this past season. Calderon for Omri Casspi and Luke Walton works under the trade rules.

    Casspi, despites his struggles last season in Cleveland, has shot 37 percent from the three-point line in his first two seasons at Sacramento. Dwane Casey has routinely emphasized the need for having shooters in his offense and Casspi figures to be a good fit.

    Walton is trade filler and he is on the last year of his contract. His expiring contract could be used as part of a bigger package during the trade deadline.
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    Quote zulfi wrote: View Post
    Colangelo should e-mail this video to the 29 other GMs in the league first thing tomorrow morning...
    This made me laugh out loud...in a good way lol.

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    Hornets makes a lot of sense, actually. Never thought of them.

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    I voted that he'll be here as a back up come training camp, but I do think that if he can get through the olympics healthy, and plays well that will increase his chances of being moved before camp. With his history I can imagine a few GM's would like to wait and see.
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    I don't think the Hornets make that much sense. If they play a real pointguard that wouldn't play into Gordon's strengths. Gordon is at his best being the ball handler in the pick and roll. I think that's why they are experimenting with Rivers as a point guard; he'll probably bring the ball up but be the secondary ballhandler after that.

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    I see Calderon going to the Knicks. They always implode at some point in the season and feel the media pressure to overreact with a trade or something. Calderon is a perfect fit for that lineup - low usage, dead-eye shooter who can pick & roll with Chandler and Amare. Hopefully, we can squeeze a way in the future first rounder out of them.

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    I don't think the Hornets make that much sense. If they play a real pointguard that wouldn't play into Gordon's strengths. Gordon is at his best being the ball handler in the pick and roll. I think that's why they are experimenting with Rivers as a point guard; he'll probably bring the ball up but be the secondary ballhandler after that.
    Given Gordon's injury history and Calderon's shooting ability, he would be great insurance and he would also play very well off the ball with Gordon (in the unlikely event he remains healthy!).

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