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    Default Where the Raptors will finish in the east

    Since the rosters seem mostly settled, it's plausible (if maybe a little premature, still) to start forecasting how the east playoff race might look, and have an idea of where the Raptors are going to fit into it. Here's my take, with some comments:

    1. Heat -- will be even better than last year. Runaway number 1. +8
    2. Nets -- Have a pretty firm ceiling, but the team will have good synergy and has definitely the 2nd best set of starters in the east. +5

    3. Celtics -- Lee and Terry will be an upgrade over Allen. They have huge downside if Garnett has knee troubles. +3.5
    4. Pacers -- Could easily finish ahead of the Celtics, but I don't think they will catch the nets. Gap between them and the next bunch. +3.5

    5. Magic -- This is assuming Howard plays for them, at his usual level. If they trade him in the summer, they go to mid-lottery probably, and whoever gets him (hopefully in the west) shoots way up.+2

    6. Raptors -- This is assuming Lowry plays very very well, Valanciunas plays as an above-average centre, and that Bargnani continues to play at the level he did before his injuries last year. But it's also assuming DeRozan continues to not be very good. It has more downside than upside potential. +1.5

    7. Bulls -- This is assuming Rose has basically no impact on the regular season. I wouldn't be very surprised if they finished better than the Raptors or Magic. +0.5
    8. Knicks -- I wouldn't actually be very surprised if they're worse than this. This is assuming Carmelo and Stoudemire can play together at an above average level, which I actually doubt. +0

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    9. Hawks -- Losing Johnson for nothing will hurt a lot. -.5
    10. Bucks -- Still very average. Will be better if Waiters is actually a stud in his first year, but I think he will shoot bad.-.5
    11. Wizards -- This is assuming Wall continues to suck. If he starts to be good, they could make the playoffs. -1
    12. 76ers -- Lost brand, have a terrible, terrible frontcourt. Upside is if Hawes plays like he did at the beginning of last season. -2
    13. Pistons -- I don't like anybody on their team aside from Monroe. -4
    14. Cavaliers -- At least they'll get another good draft pick. -6
    15. Bobcats -- Their team is still unbelievably awful. -10

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    1. Heat
    2. Pacers
    3. Celtics
    4. Knicks
    5. Nets
    6. Sixers
    7. Bulls
    8. Hawks
    9. Bucks
    10. Wizards
    11. Raptors
    12. Cavaliers
    13. Pistons
    14. Magic (obviously I'm going with Dwight being gone)
    15. Bobcats

    Don't get me wrong I think Raptors will improve, but they're still not a playoff team and they'll probably miss out on playoffs by about 4 or 5 games, and 10-13 in East could be as close as 2 or 3 games.

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    1.Heat (better than last year)
    2.Celtics (assuming everyone stays healthy)
    3.Nets
    4.Pacers
    5.Knicks
    6.Sixers
    7.Raptors
    8.Bulls (rose comes back in march)

    We are better than the rest of the east as Washinton will take time to acclimate (nene and okafor play same position), atlanta has no scoring, orlando will lose dwight, clevland has no scoring other than kyrie (waiters is combo guard who will struggle in rookie year)

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    1. Heat - Once Allen and Lewis get adjusted to the new team the Heat will be crushing teams by 20+ on the regular
    2. Pacers
    3. Celtics
    4. Wizards - Wall finally has some players to dish to in the post as well as perimeter
    5. New York - Way too much talent and now with both Felton and Kidd
    6. Nets - Great backcourt, but their frontcourt and bench is going to suck...again. Max contract for Brook Lopez LOL!
    7. Chicago - Still has coach Thib's
    8. Atlanta/Milwaukee/ Toronto

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    I don't think the Raptors make the playoffs this year, unless Lowry, JV and Ross exceed expectations. The play of those three with the improvement Bargs and the potential improvement of DD might move us into last playoff spot, but I can't see them making 6th above the Bulls or the Knicks.

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    1. Heat
    2. Celtics
    3. Pacers
    4. Magic (with Howard)
    5. Knicks
    6. Nets
    7. Sixers
    8. Bucks
    9. Raptors
    10. Bulls
    11. Hawks
    12. Wizards
    13. Cavs
    14. Bobcats
    15. Pistons

    Will probably get a lot of crap for my #10, but this is just my opinion. Also, losing Ben Gordon is a huge blow to the Pistons, which is why they recieved a last-place finish from me.
    Last edited by isaacthompson; Tue Jul 24th, 2012 at 01:03 PM.
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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    1. Heat
    2. Celtics
    3. Pacers
    4. Magic (with Howard)
    5. Knicks
    6. Nets
    7. Sixers
    8. Bucks
    9. Raptors
    10. Bulls
    11. Hawks
    12. Wizards
    13. Cavs
    14. Bobcats
    15. Pistons

    Will prbably get a lot of crap for my #10, but this is just my opinion
    Bucks wont make playoffs - they have no center and 3 powerforwards with limited offensive games and 2 point guards who score and hog the ball

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    Quote MyTEAM4Life wrote: View Post
    Bucks wont make playoffs - they have no center and 3 powerforwards with limited offensive games and 2 point guards who score and hog the ball
    The Bucks got Samuel Dalembert for free.

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    Lots of love for the Knicks.. they are a very medicore bunch, and now won't have Linsanity to help get them into the playoffs. I think they will struggle.

    For the Raps, the homer in me says 7th. The realist in me says 9 or 10.

    Here is my East rankings:

    1. Heat - will be tough to beat.
    2. Pacers - better than Bulls without Rose, so will win division
    3. Celtics - old so will lose games but will finish high
    4. Bulls - even without Rose will do well
    5. Nets - will have a so-so season if everyone is healthy
    6. Sixers - get here based on defense alone
    7. Hawks- no JJ, but team will rally without him (plus still have Smith/Horford/Teague)
    8. Wizards - not so impressed by their acquisitions but they have a nice mix of veterans and youth (without the dysfunction)
    9. Knicks - Felton/Kidd will be a disaster. Shumpert is their best perimeter defender, and will be gone until January probably.
    10. Raptors - hoping for better, but can't see them getting into the playoffs yet.
    11. Bucks - Not sure I like the Jennings/Ellis combo. Ilyasova has his contract now so will probably regress.
    12. Magic - Howard will help them get a good record in the beginning, and then will fall when the dysfunction hits
    13. Cavs - After Irving don't see much. This will change if they get Bynum though.
    14. Pistons - still a crappy team. Drummond will be a bust.
    15. Bobcats - Will be better than last year - doesn't really say much though.

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    Ill play your silly little game...

    1. Heat
    2. Pacers
    3. Celtics (healthy)
    4. Knicks
    5. Nets
    6. Atlanta
    7. Bulls
    8. Philly/Washington/ Raps
    11. Milwaukee
    12. Orlando
    13. Cleveland
    14. Detroit
    15. Charlotte

    Prediction: The 7-10 seeds will flip flop for the entire month ofAPRIL
    Thanks ebrian
    Last edited by SitnonDfence; Tue Jul 24th, 2012 at 01:37 PM. Reason: Brain Fart

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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    Why would they move at all in May?

    Thats a very good question.....FAIL.

    Thanks edited.

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    1.Heat
    2.Nets
    3.Knicks
    4.Pacers
    5.Celtics
    6.Bulls
    7.Raptors
    8.Wizards
    9.Hawks
    10.Bucks
    11.Magic
    12.Sixers
    13.Pistons
    14.Cavs
    15.Bobcats

    No explanations needed..book it!

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    Quote Sheptor wrote: View Post
    1.Heat
    2.Nets
    3.Knicks
    4.Pacers
    5.Celtics
    6.Bulls
    7.Raptors
    8.Wizards
    9.Hawks
    10.Bucks
    11.Magic
    12.Sixers
    13.Pistons
    14.Cavs
    15.Bobcats

    No explanations needed..book it!
    This is exactly how I had it pictured. Except I'd switch the Nets to 4 with the Pacers going number 2.

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    Premature thread. Great one for October.

    But I'll play along:

    1. Heat
    2. Pacers
    3. Celtics
    4. Nets
    5. Knicks
    6. Bulls
    7. Hawks
    8. Raptors
    9. Bucks
    10. Sixers
    11. Wizards
    12. Pistons
    13. Cavs (injuries)
    14. Bobcats
    15. Magic

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Premature thread. Great one for October.

    But I'll play along:

    1. Heat
    2. Pacers
    3. Celtics
    4. Nets
    5. Knicks
    6. Bulls
    7. Hawks
    8. Raptors
    9. Bucks
    10. Sixers
    11. Wizards
    12. Pistons
    13. Cavs (injuries)
    14. Bobcats
    15. Magic
    This +1

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Premature thread. Great one for October.

    But I'll play along:

    1. Heat
    2. Pacers
    3. Celtics
    4. Nets
    5. Knicks
    6. Bulls
    7. Hawks
    8. Raptors
    9. Bucks
    10. Sixers
    11. Wizards
    12. Pistons
    13. Cavs (injuries)
    14. Bobcats
    15. Magic
    how come you have the pacers at 2nd?
    and celtics third? without Ray, steisma

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    how come you have the pacers at 2nd?
    and celtics third? without Ray, steisma
    Pacers are in the Central which is (without Rose and loss of major role players) likely to be weakest conference in east (Chicago, Indiana, Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee). *EDIT* Actually if Dwight gets traded before season, Southeast likely to be just as weak.*End EDIT* Pacers will win Central.

    Celtics lost Ray and Steisma but they added Terry, Lee, and Green. They do have a hole at backup C (not sold on Sullinger or Melo as rookies) but I think their coaching, veteran players coming to camp in shape, and Rondo will give them an edge over Brooklyn or New York. C's will win Atlantic.
    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Wed Jul 25th, 2012 at 09:41 AM.

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    Default Won't make the playoff's...

    Wow...
    Ppl are very optimistic,that's good,but let's be serious.
    Team has improved,but not enough 2 make the playoff's in the east and honestly I don't care if they just make the playoffs,I think fans want contender.
    Yes I realize that every franchise in T.O has not been in playoff's in eternity,but do u want 2 just make it and get blown out buy maimi,exactly.
    With this roster I don't think they make the playoff's,unless they get rid of Calderon,Bargnani and Klieza pkg for allstar calliber sf and pf with grit and defensive minded..ie(Charles Oakley kinda player)protect the kid,Jonas V.
    Jonas V is rook,ref's will be all over this kid,fouls,fouls,fouls,kid needs protection...and Andrea Bargnani well that's just another story I could go into,but I wont.
    That's my thought,I want the raptors 2 be good,but I don't see it.
    Like the Leafs and Blue Jays..there are missing that piece,franchise player.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Premature thread. Great one for October.
    I'm sure this could be done monthly, starting now until April, and still get 5+ pages of posts.

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    Why does everyone think the bulls will make the playoffs - even if they have their coach - they lost Asik, they lost rose, their bench has been gutted (only taj remains) - who will score for them - they will be the raptors from last year - good defence but absolutely no Offense

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