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    Andrei kirilenko just comfirms he wants to come back in the nba since jersey can only offert him the a small amout
    do you think it would be good to bring him in a our starting 3 ?
    great starting five and could be a sleeper and suprise team in the east


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    Quote ab7 wrote: View Post
    Andrei kirilenko just comfirms he wants to come back in the nba since jersey can only offert him the a small amout
    do you think it would be good to bring him in a our starting 3 ?
    great starting five and could be a sleeper and suprise team in the east


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    Do you have a source?

    The David West Contract: 2 years, $20M.

    The Raptors would need to find a taker for Calderon with little to no salary coming back to make that offer.

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    its on Hoopshype now. What's our cap situation? I know we can't amnesty anyone.... Do we have the full mid-level? I say we go after him

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    its on Hoopshype now. What's our cap situation? I know we can't amnesty anyone.... Do we have the full mid-level? I say we go after him
    Raps have 12 players with $1.2M in cap room (including JL3), a $2.5M room exception (likely going to Gray), and minimum contracts.

    Only way to get AK47 is to trade Calderon with little to no salary coming back.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Raps have 12 players with $1.2M in cap room (including JL3), a $2.5M room exception (likely going to Gray), and minimum contracts.

    Only way to get AK47 is to trade Calderon with little to no salary coming back.
    Yep. But damn, wouldn't that be a great pickup?

    I feel that he's not too popular on these boards, but Kirilenko would be beautiful at the 3 for us. He's just 31, and has career numbers of 12 ppg/ 6 rpg / 2 bpg / 1.4 spg. Would love to see him here, if the money's right.

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    Quote KHD wrote: View Post
    Yep. But damn, wouldn't that be a great pickup?

    I feel that he's not too popular on these boards, but Kirilenko would be beautiful at the 3 for us. He's just 31, and has career numbers of 12 ppg/ 6 rpg / 2 bpg / 1.4 spg. Would love to see him here, if the money's right.
    David West Contract.

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    ak47 is reliable. Solid backup or OK starting 5.

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    ak47 would be a decent fit at the starting three. on an unrelated sidenote, we'd have the whitest frontcourt in the whole NBA if this actually happened.
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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    ak47 would be a decent fit at the starting three. on an unrelated sidenote, we'd have the whitest frontcourt in the whole NBA if this actually happened.

    We could almost put out an all-white line up!

    Calderon
    Kleiza
    Kirilenko
    Bargs
    JV/Gray

    Or white's versus blacks in practice! I'm sure it'd be a good team building exercise!
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    I've heard if he's coming back it's to play for the Nets so he can play under Prokhorov. We can't do a sign and trade since he didn't play last year.. so we'd have to trade Calderon without getting any assets back.. I'm sure BC's been trying to do that all summer already.

    I don't see how we can get him.

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    All via HoopsHype.com:


    Former Utah Jazz forward Andrei Kirilenko has decided to return to the NBA for next season, he told R-Sport on Tuesday. Ria Novosti

    “I’ll continue my career in the NBA,” Kirilenko said. “Which club in particular, we’ll know in a day or two.” Ria Novosti

    Andrei Kirilenko: “After such a stronger season with CSKA I understand that I can still play at a high level. I’m 31 but I can still play and still want to play.” Ria Novosti

    Teams that are possible right now without any transaction to free up cap space assuming he signs for more than the MLE:

    Minnesota
    New Orleans
    Cleveland

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    All via HoopsHype.com:











    Teams that are possible right now without any transaction to free up cap space assuming he signs for more than the MLE:

    Minnesota
    New Orleans
    Cleveland
    Adrian WojnarowskiVerified ‏@WojYahooNBA

    Several league executives believe Minnesota is pursuing free agent Andrei Kirilenko. He's no longer considering Brooklyn, sources say.

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    The twolves really love signing cska players, they signed Shved earlier and now they're going after Kirilenko who's next Krstic?

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    Quote Vykis wrote: View Post
    The twolves really love signing cska players, they signed Shved earlier and now they're going after Kirilenko who's next Krstic?
    Kristic is signed until the end of 2013-2014 with CKSA and they have an option for another year after.

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    I don't know if he'd be much of an improvement over fields. Even if he was he wouldnt be for long then he'd have to fight kleiza for minutes. I wouldn't mind if we got him, I just think if we did we shouldve got him at the beginning of the month. Don't know if he's a good fit anymore

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    The more I think about this, I am not sure he would be a good move - even on a David West-like contract.

    In making such an offer, the Raps would lose all future flexibility. For a player like AI or Gay, I could live with that. For AK47, not so much. Definitely 4 years younger.

    Then there is his injury history. 82 games is a grind and I'm not sure he can handle it.

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    I'm dreaming of a situation where New Orleans, who now only has rookie Austin Rivers as a prospective PG (Jack traded to GSW, Vasquez to europe) sign AK-47 and trade him to Toronto immediately in exchange for Calderon's expiring deal. They get a PG to bridge the gap until they have the PG of their future, and we get a stud combo-forward who is a former DPOY who will excel under a defense-first coach, plus we have a solid Euro presence on the team. With pieces like Lowry, Ross, Fields, Kiralenko, Davis, and Valanciunas we can legitimately become a great defensive team. We won't win our division with BKN, BOS, and NYK but we could land a 7 or 8 spot. If AK-47 will accept a deal that's frontloaded or is only 2 or 3 years long then I'd make the deal if available. NO can absorb money so AK-47 doesn't necessarily need to be paid $10M. I'd think $5-6M is reasonable, and certainly no contending team could offer that, but no deal beyond 3 years. Management has orchestrated the teams contract to provide flexibility in 3 years.

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    Quote jimmyhunter wrote: View Post
    I'm dreaming of a situation where New Orleans, who now only has rookie Austin Rivers as a prospective PG (Jack traded to GSW, Vasquez to europe) sign AK-47 and trade him to Toronto immediately in exchange for Calderon's expiring deal. They get a PG to bridge the gap until they have the PG of their future, and we get a stud combo-forward who is a former DPOY who will excel under a defense-first coach, plus we have a solid Euro presence on the team. With pieces like Lowry, Ross, Fields, Kiralenko, Davis, and Valanciunas we can legitimately become a great defensive team. We won't win our division with BKN, BOS, and NYK but we could land a 7 or 8 spot. If AK-47 will accept a deal that's frontloaded or is only 2 or 3 years long then I'd make the deal if available. NO can absorb money so AK-47 doesn't necessarily need to be paid $10M. I'd think $5-6M is reasonable, and certainly no contending team could offer that, but no deal beyond 3 years. Management has orchestrated the teams contract to provide flexibility in 3 years.
    My understanding is that a player cannot be signed-and-traded unless they were on the active roster the previous season. For example, we could not have used Weems as a sign-and-trade since he was in Europe last year.

    This would mean that Kirilenko could not be used in a sign-and-trade like this.

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    Quote jimmyhunter wrote: View Post
    I'm dreaming of a situation where New Orleans, who now only has rookie Austin Rivers as a prospective PG (Jack traded to GSW, Vasquez to europe) sign AK-47 and trade him to Toronto immediately in exchange for Calderon's expiring deal. They get a PG to bridge the gap until they have the PG of their future, and we get a stud combo-forward who is a former DPOY who will excel under a defense-first coach, plus we have a solid Euro presence on the team. With pieces like Lowry, Ross, Fields, Kiralenko, Davis, and Valanciunas we can legitimately become a great defensive team. We won't win our division with BKN, BOS, and NYK but we could land a 7 or 8 spot. If AK-47 will accept a deal that's frontloaded or is only 2 or 3 years long then I'd make the deal if available. NO can absorb money so AK-47 doesn't necessarily need to be paid $10M. I'd think $5-6M is reasonable, and certainly no contending team could offer that, but no deal beyond 3 years. Management has orchestrated the teams contract to provide flexibility in 3 years.
    That can't happen until December 15th.

    If the Hornets want Calderon, I think they have the cap space to just take him on. Brad Miller, Dyson, and Thomas contracts are not guaranteed. That frees up nearly $6M.

    The Raps could just sign AK47 themselves then.

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    Quote jimmyhunter wrote: View Post
    I'm dreaming of a situation where New Orleans, who now only has rookie Austin Rivers as a prospective PG (Jack traded to GSW, Vasquez to europe) sign AK-47 and trade him to Toronto immediately in exchange for Calderon's expiring deal. ...
    As far as I know, Vasquez is still under contract with New Orleans. That being said, a Vasquez-for-Calderon swap might make sense for both teams. I guess it depends on how comfortable Monty Williams is with his PG situation... But if we were to pull that off, it would give us a perfect backup PG and room to potentially sign Kirilenko, or take on salary down the road.

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