View Poll Results: Colangelo's contract up for Renewal next year, keep him?

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  • yes - only if we make playoffs

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    Default To All BC fans and haters - I think BC's contract

    BC's contract is up for renewal next year I think...thus this year is important.

    Will he get a a new contract?
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    i think it all depends on how the team does this year. he's been walking a thin line for 2 or 3 years now, I think MLSE and the city of Toronto are on their last straw with him now
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    Default Tough

    We need to keep him....considering the available options.
    Plus he wears Don Cherry high collar shirts....which is a good fit for Canadas only BBALL team
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    Quote Risk Mgmt wrote: View Post
    We need to keep him....considering the available options.
    Plus he wears Don Cherry high collar shirts....which is a good fit for Canadas only BBALL team
    I disagree on needing to keep him. I'm a big BC fan but that just sounds desperate.

    I think the team option for 2013-14 needs to be picked up unless the team gets off to a horrible start - like 10-20.

    If come the 2013-14 season the Raps aren't making playoff noise, bye-bye Bryan.

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    Quote Risk Mgmt wrote: View Post
    We need to keep him....considering the available options.
    Who are the NBA personnel people that will be available going into next offseason? Has a comprehensive list been compiled? You don't know what the options are until you start looking. Again, for the umpteenth time, Colangelo coming to Toronto is the perfect example of a guy going to Toronto when no one thought it would happen.

    As for the broader point of picking up BC's option, the only potential argument I can accept is that we should completely ignore past performance and grade him solely on the success of the 2012 team. Any review of his full tenure here simply can't lead to a conclusion that you keep him. His record is sub-500 and he has zero playoff series wins in 6 years. In fact, his tenure is actually worse than the 6 season preceding his arrival. Was everyone happy with those 6 seasons?

    I have nothing against Colangelo personally. I met him at one of those season ticket holder things years ago and he was a very engaging, personable guy. I'm sure he's a gentleman and a smart businessman. But the bottom line is that he hasn't produced. It's not all his fault but he's the boss. It's long past time to move on.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    I have nothing against Colangelo personally. I met him at one of those season ticket holder things years ago and he was a very engaging, personable guy. I'm sure he's a gentleman and a smart businessman. But the bottom line is that he hasn't produced. It's not all his fault but he's the boss. It's long past time to move on.
    That's the problem.
    He looks good, he dresses well, he talks well and people fall in love with the image and ignore the substance.

    Have we learned nothing from Sprite advertising people....image is nothing, thirst is everything.
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    Assume for a moment,
    that everything being the same excep that Toronto is a American City. Would things be different?

    Would all our GM's for all our sports team have better ability to build solid play-off bound teams?
    Toronto is the 5th or 6th largest North American City with 6Million people and growing rapidly... yet the sports scene suffers due to the stigma of being North of the Border.

    Do our GM's have a harder Job to market the city to players south of the border. Do we have to pay 20% more to attract folks here as compared to other cities.

    This is what BC has to deal with. But he took the JOB, he accepted the responsibility.
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    He has a team option for 2013-14.

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    I would have selected Team Option if it was there.

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    Quote Katman wrote: View Post
    I would have selected Team Option if it was there.
    Agreed. Of all the premature threads of late this is the premature-est.

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    Agreed. Of all the premature threads of late this is the premature-est.
    I wasnt trying to sound desperate...considering the market and the resources - I think he has done alright. The same goes for the other non-playoff Toronto teams. The GMs have done what they could with what the have.
    I guess when it comes time to remove BC....we will have to canvas the market for replacement.

    Premature-est...yet you and 4 others have contributed to the premature-est...go figure.

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    Quote Risk Mgmt wrote: View Post
    I wasnt trying to sound desperate...considering the market and the resources - I think he has done alright. The same goes for the other non-playoff Toronto teams. The GMs have done what they could with what the have.
    I guess when it comes time to remove BC....we will have to canvas the market for replacement.

    Premature-est...yet you and 4 others have contributed to the premature-est...go figure.

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    I've been bashed - repeatedly and endlessly - for my views on BC (btw historically a huge BC fan). However the Raps have missed the playoffs for 4 consecutive seasons. As much of a BC fan I am the reality is, as has been thrown in my face numerous times, this is a results driven league. Over the last 4 years, we've not seen results. If results don't come by 2013-14, time to go BC.

    I really do not know why you are taking the comment so personally. There was no malicious intent on my part and if you took it that way, I do apologize. This is not the main page comment sections of RR. Everyone in here is pretty respectful of each other and those who are not do not last very long.

    You started the thread missing a huge piece of information: team option in 2013-14. With that information, do you not think this is a premature discussion? Maybe a thread about picking up his option would have been more relevant.

    But then again, this is just my opinion and it has no more value than your own. So if you don't feel the thread is premature at all, that is cool, carry on. And you are right, I did reply, so maybe I'm wrong on this afterall.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I've been bashed - repeatedly and endlessly - for my views on BC (btw historically a huge BC fan). However the Raps have missed the playoffs for 4 consecutive seasons. As much of a BC fan I am the reality is, as has been thrown in my face numerous times, this is a results driven league. Over the last 4 years, we've not seen results. If results don't come by 2013-14, time to go BC.

    I really do not know why you are taking the comment so personally. There was no malicious intent on my part and if you took it that way, I do apologize. This is not the main page comment sections of RR. Everyone in here is pretty respectful of each other and those who are not do not last very long.

    You started the thread missing a huge piece of information: team option in 2013-14. With that information, do you not think this is a premature discussion? Maybe a thread about picking up his option would have been more relevant.

    But then again, this is just my opinion and it has no more value than your own. So if you don't feel the thread is premature at all, that is cool, carry on. And you are right, I did reply, so maybe I'm wrong on this afterall.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Agreed. Of all the premature threads of late this is the premature-est.
    You haven't seen the Wiggins thread yet...

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    Another possible option could be a promotion, where in Stefanski becomes the defacto GM. Colangelo becomes President of MLSE, given his previous background in real estate. Tannenbaum loves the guy, just not surre how much sway he will have on the new board.

    Good riddance Teachers Pension!

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    Quote Katman wrote: View Post
    Another possible option could be a promotion, where in Stefanski becomes the defacto GM. Colangelo becomes President of MLSE, given his previous background in real estate. Tannenbaum loves the guy, just not surre how much sway he will have on the new board.

    Good riddance Teachers Pension!

    Will the new owners (ROGERS/BELL) be better or worse compared to Teachers?
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    Well for the teachers, their responsibility is to maximize profit and increase the value of their asset.

    The Rogers/Bell deal never made sense if that was their goal (since thwy paid so much). For them it was about securing content and figure out how to sucker more people into buying their products (here come the new channels that we'll need to pay extra for, IMO). For them, there is significant valuee growth in playoff dates...hopefully that equates to commitment for success.

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    Get rid of him
    1) What have he and the other non playoff bound Toronto GM's done with what they have available to them?
    2) He wears Don Cherry high collars
    A career in Toronto of failure and once you think he is heading toward a rebuild he starts trading away draft choices and trying to make a splash with Nash. Under others this might have been viewed as part of a plan, under him not so much. No one else available? That is what they said about Triano. Come on Toronto. You don't have to lose. It is not natural... really...

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    What would you have done different as RAPTORS GM? Think about that now!!!
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    Quote Risk Mgmt wrote: View Post
    What would you have done different as RAPTORS GM? Think about that now!!!
    I would have probably missed the play offs 4 years in a row without an apparent plan and if you owned the team and had a lick of sense you probably would fire me now!!! ...or something like that.
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