the only thing i miss about the Bosh era, was having that one player who was good enough to win the raptors their division and get us into the playoffs..
The deal also calls for Toronto to get the league's maximum allowed in cash considerations ($3 million) and for the Heat to land a conditional first-round pick to come sometime between 2010 and 2015. It's lottery-protected, essentially meaning the first time the Raptors make the playoffs after this season, their first-rounder goes to Miami.
Ed Davis was a lottery pick so it would not have gone to Miami. Same with JV in 2011. However if we make the playoffs this year, then that pick would have gone to Miami. We get to keep it now. That would be the case even with the trade to Houston for Lowry since Houston would only get the pick if we failed to make the playoffs and didn't get into the top 3.
It was essentially a crappy pick that we got back for Bosh.
FACT #1 - Bosh made cute like he would resign here
FACT #2 - Colangelo gambled on that being the case
FACT #3 - Colangelo was wrong.
FACT #4 - We got a TPE and our own pick back
FACT #5 - Colangelo is a human being (one prone to gambling)
FACT #6 - Every GM decision comes with risk
FACT #7 - Colangelo has been playing it safe since Bosh left. He is making better decisions and locking in no stupid long term money pit contracts (Landry Fields doesn't count because its a 8.5 million dollar expiring trade chip in two seasons if he doesn't pan out.)
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FACT #1 - Bosh made cute like he would resign here
FACT #2 - Colangelo gambled on that being the case
FACT #3 - Colangelo was wrong.
FACT #4 - We got a TPE and our own pick back
FACT #5 - Colangelo is a human being (one prone to gambling)
FACT #6 - Every GM decision comes with risk
FACT #7 - Colangelo has been playing it safe since Bosh left. He is making better decisions and locking in no stupid long term money pit contracts (Landry Fields doesn't count because its a 8.5 million dollar expiring trade chip in two seasons if he doesn't pan out.)
Do you know for certain in the final year of the deal it is treated like $8.5M (contract value) or $6.25M (Raptor cap hit)? This is something I've never been certain of.
Really??? This is like watching the Raptor Channel: REPEATS!!!! Get over the Bosh thing already, yo!!!! Smdh
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For Toronto the contract is locked in at $6.25M, for NY it would have been lock in based on cashflow for team salary purposes. Were Toronto to trade Fields the receiving team would use Toronto's contract number for salary purposes too, but would pay the $8.5M. Cash outflow for the contract does not affect how Fields contract is reflected on the books.
Question is would a team be willing to pay $8.5M when the cap hit is lower....my guess would be a team flush with money.
For Toronto the contract is locked in at $6.25M, for NY it would have been lock in based on cashflow for team salary purposes. Were Toronto to trade Fields the receiving team would use Toronto's contract number for salary purposes too, but would pay the $8.5M. Cash outflow for the contract does not affect how Fields contract is reflected on the books.
Question is would a team be willing to pay $8.5M when the cap hit is lower....my guess would be a team flush with money.
Do you know that for certainty though? If so, how? Is there a link? Thanks.
There is nothing explicity saying anything about any future trades changing the contract based on cash outflow in Coon's CBAFAQ, only that in Toronto's case the salary amount is the 3 year average. Since Larry Coon doesn't explicity say it changes, I have inferred that the contract average is used for a trade since he does explicity say the contract is the 3 yr average.
However, logically, were Fields to be traded in the 3rd year of his contract, Toronto would have already absorbed as contract salary 2 years of the prorated excess ballon payment amount. He could not possibly be worth $8.5M in contract salary that year (he will receive $8.5M in payments), that would be double counting and an administrative nightmare for the League.
There is nothing explicity saying anything about any future trades changing the contract based on cash outflow in Coon's CBAFAQ, only that in Toronto's case the salary amount is the 3 year average. Since Larry Coon doesn't explicity say it changes, I have inferred that the contract average is used for a trade since he does explicity say the contract is the 3 yr average.
However, logically, were Fields to be traded in the 3rd year of his contract, Toronto would have already absorbed as contract salary 2 years of the prorated excess ballon payment amount. He could not possibly be worth $8.5M in contract salary that year (he will receive $8.5M in payments), that would be double counting and an administrative nightmare for the League.
At the trade deadline we were in 4th snd bosh was leaning towards re signing, it would also have caused an uproar if we would have traded bosh from 4th place. The raptors then went on to lose lose lose on route to a 9th place finish. Bosh said the other raps werent trying so he got pissed and left. Hindsight is 20/20
In relation to the thread topic, my question is "who would have traded anything of value for Bosh before the trade deadline?" It seems pretty clear that Bosh was determined to go to Miami, so why would any other team give up anything of value to rent him for the balance of the season? Miami already knew that they would get Bosh as a free agent, so why would they trade anything of value to get him? I think that the reason that Colangelo was ticked was because Bosh's determination to go to Miami, and only Miami, gave him no real options to get much in return.
This is a dumb subject, why didn't the Suns trade Amare at the mid season then let him go? No player shows there cards mid season when they are a FA unless your Dwight Howard because you'll get an bad image placed upon yourself once you leave.
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