Sun Jan 27th, 2013, 09:30 PM
Lowry / Calderon A Fork In The Road
There are two different paths for this team to take.
Terrence Ross - excellent option on drive and kicks. he has the ability to get his own shot. can rebound from the guard position
Landry Fields - good cutter, solid rebounder, capable defender. above average passer/facilitator
Ed Davis - would thrive on ducks ins - put backs. being the primary option when Lowry driving causes the defense to suck in. excellent help defender (allows wings to gamble a bit on passing lanes)
Jonas Valanciunas - can space the floor with this 15ft jumper, allow Ed to operate. developing post up game. excellent help defender (allows wings to gamble a bit on passing lanes)
who goes? Amir and DeMar
Terrence Ross - excellent 3pt shooter both as catch and shoot and coming off screens
DeMar DeRozan - excellent mid range coming off screens
Amir Johnson - screen and roll (20ft shot) rolls hard. Great chemistry with Jose.
Jonas Valanciunas - screen and roll (15ft shot) rolls hard. sets hard screens
The main difference between Jose and Kyle is who you go after in the trade and free agent market as well. Some likely targets (though we likely won't get them) for this summer would/should vary greatly depending on who runs the show.
For a small forward, if you keep Kyle you want Andre Igoudala. A two way player and facilitator from the wing position.
With Calderon you should aim for someone like Danny Granger. Good defender, great shooter.
PF for Kyle would benefit greatly from someone like Pau Gasol.
PF for Calderon someone like Millsap could save 10 million and be extremely useful.
In a game with the teams comprised of
Lowry/Ross/Iggy/Gasol/JV vs Calderon/Ross/Granger/Millsap/JV I honestly don't know who would win or who even really had an advantage. But the decision at the point needs to be made before the trade deadline. The days of just acquiring assets are over. A direction needs to be picked BEFORE we go looking for assets/talent upgrades, because it alters the kind of players that would thrive there. Think Lakers acquiring Steve Nash and Dwight Howard then running Princeton? Brooklyn acquires Crash, and Joe Johnson and then opts to play at a slow pace?
It sounds from a few sources like there is quite the internal debate going right now about who to keep? I don't think one way is more correct than another. I do think attempting to have the best of both worlds will ultimately dilute both directions resulting in yet more mediocrity.
Sun Jan 27th, 2013, 09:44 PM
Raptors Republic Superstar
Give us ideal SFs and PFs for either the two doesn't really do much when you don't give us any trades that will get us those players. It's a pointless to compare Lowry/Ross/Iggy/Gasol/JV vs Calderon/Ross/Granger/Millsap/JV especially since it's all fantasy and these starting line-ups will never come to be true. Until you can tell us what pieces we are trading and other possible pieces we are getting back to get your ideal starting lineup, I'm sorry but this is not really an good thread.
Sun Jan 27th, 2013, 09:50 PM
Raptors Republic All-Star
While I agree certain players work better with one PG than another (although some I don't think are as clear cut), but playing a little player theory here, I don't agree Demar makes more sense with Jose. He's an isolation or one on one player. With Jose you want guys that are constantly moving, and particularily going to the net without the ball.
Then again I'm not sure Demar makes much sense with anyone... he just lacks too much.
Sun Jan 27th, 2013, 10:32 PM
The specific point I was attempting to make with that (I may not have communicated it right) was that if and when you decide on the PG it alters who fits better with this team in order to make a better team. I'm not interested in going over trades to get there it was more of a ... if you go with Lowry you need to target players that fill in the holes of his game and likewise with Calderon. The second point being, I actually don't know who is better for the team, Lowry or Jose, but a decision needs to occur before the trade deadline so that we are targeting the right assets...
Sun Jan 27th, 2013, 10:34 PM
If DeMar's role is an isolation player he is doing a SUPERBLY SHITTY job of it. Most of his points are long two's mid range jumpers and they almost always come off screens.
Mon Jan 28th, 2013, 01:33 AM
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