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    Quote Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    not expecting him to ever play in the league and wish we used that pick on machado, who might be able to play in the league. would have saved a little bit of money on a third stringer if he had of made the team and could have learnt from jose before he leaves.

    i think we drafted him because no one would buy the pick and we had to use it.
    The problem with that theory is that there will be a hundred Machado's that you can choose from on a yearly basis from the NCAA, D League or Europe etc. but a 7 footer who can shoot and handle the ball like a 3 is far more desirable a risk. He may never amout to anything in the NBA, but just look at Sundiata Gaines, Mike James, John Lucas III, there are a lot of them out there.

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    The problem with that theory is that there will be a hundred Machado's that you can choose from on a yearly basis from the NCAA, D League or Europe etc. but a 7 footer who can shoot and handle the ball like a 3 is far more desirable a risk. He may never amout to anything in the NBA, but just look at Sundiata Gaines, Mike James, John Lucas III, there are a lot of them out there.
    For what its worth, I agree with you. Many detractors will likely point to Isaiah Thomas at 60 last year. Personally, I think it further supports the theory even the first round can be a crap shoot and the 2nd round - especially late - is a lottery ticket.

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    For what its worth, I agree with you. Many detractors will likely point to Isaiah Thomas at 60 last year. Personally, I think it further supports the theory even the first round can be a crap shoot and the 2nd round - especially late - is a lottery ticket.

    Exactly.

    I hated when people were saying "oh it's a deep draft" before the draft and then using a mock draft to support their arguments that Ross was a reach after it.
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    For what its worth, I agree with you. Many detractors will likely point to Isaiah Thomas at 60 last year. Personally, I think it further supports the theory even the first round can be a crap shoot and the 2nd round - especially late - is a lottery ticket.
    agreed. I like Machado's game and thought that the Raps could have taken a chance on him. But if I had a choice between taking a flyer on an undersized third string point guard or a 7 footer with shooting range and decent handles and athleticism, I am going for the 7 footer every time.

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    Default Tomislav Zubcic vs Jonas Valanciunas

    Yeah, it's pretty long. Tomislav comes in at the 29:30 mark and Jonas starts. They both on the at the 30:11 mark for the first time. In Tomislav first stink on the court you get to see him push the ball up the court on the break. His handle is superb for a 7footer. He would definitely give DeMar a run for his money. It was pretty impressive! In 8 minutes he had a stat line of 7 pts 2rebs 2 ast all in the 2nd Q(Didn't play first Q)

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    Teach him to pump fake a bunch of times and you'll have the second coming of Bargnani


    EDIT: Also, is this a Euro-thing?



    Last edited by theycallmeZZ; Tue Aug 28th, 2012 at 11:19 AM.
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    Every team need to get that bonus pick, the second round guy that comes in and can be a very good player. Guys like Michael Redd, Manu, Mehmet Okur, Carlos Boozer, P.J. Brown...guys that will make your team better, maybe we finally found our guy...2-3 years down the road he could be coming over and providing quality depth...or maybe we will never see him.

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    Lang Greene from Hoopsworld.com thoughts

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    What do you know about the raptors’#56 pick Tomislav Zubcic?

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    Christian … good range on the jumper … questions about his lateral quickness …body needs to develop before he’ll be able to bang in the post at the NBA level.
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    Tomislav Zubcic is definitely a 4 than a 3?

    Lang Greene
    He’s probsbly more of a 3, but the bigger threes will take him into the post and force him to go body-to-body … and he’s not ready for that physicality just yet.
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    That's awesome, I really hope he does make the jump next season

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    And I love the fact that he strives to play like Durant!

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    Quote theycallmeZZ wrote: View Post
    Thanks for that. Very good.

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    Yannis Kroutroupis (NBA and NCAA analyst) thoughts

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    What can you tell us Raptors about are #56 pick Tomislav Zubcic?

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    Can handle the basketball, has good size. Don’t think he can defend small forwards in the NBA. Has a decent stroke.
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    Stephen Brotherston's Thoughts

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    Do you think Tomislav Zubcic will ever play for the raptors?

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    Welcome to this afternoon’s chat.
    Time to talk basketball when there is absolutely nothing going on (yet) – but its still the best way to spend an afternoon!

    Zubic is 22-years-old – he slide back last season – especially in the Eurocup play and that’s after decent Euroleague play (higher) the season before.

    He’s 6′ 11″, he can rebound, he’s supposed to have a good jumpshot – not last year – so he’s got a lot to make up for to get back on an NBA track. Typical late 2nd round intriguing prospect that the Raptors have historically been terrible at picking out the winners from.

    As of right now – odds aren’t good he’ll ever play in the NBA – But maybe he turns things around this season? It’s easy to see why the Raps used a pick on him even though he’s no where near ready to play in the NBA – 6′ 11″ with some skills – if you throw enough mud at the wall, some of it sticks.
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    I m from croatia and i hear yesterday that tomislav zubcic wants in nba next year.I watched a lot of his games here and i don’t think that he is nba material.He is soft,does’t play defense,lousy rebounder for tall 3 or 4,hasn’t developed much in last 2 years.What do you think about him?

    Stephen Brotherston
    He definitely wasn’t NBA material last season. It’s the classic – young big guys take longer to develop – but I agree he has not shown the steady progress which would lead someone to believe that he is going to make it.

    Based on last season, I agree with you. Soft, not deserving of more court time. Maybe he figures out how to use his size & skills, but at 22-years-old – kind of hope we’d already seen some of that.
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    The problem with that theory is that there will be a hundred Machado's that you can choose from on a yearly basis from the NCAA, D League or Europe etc. but a 7 footer who can shoot and handle the ball like a 3 is far more desirable a risk. He may never amout to anything in the NBA, but just look at Sundiata Gaines, Mike James, John Lucas III, there are a lot of them out there.
    Will he ever be as good as Alexis Ajinca? And where did Alexis played last year?

    Color me skeptic.

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    Tomislav Zubcic 17 pts 2 Rebs 3 Ast 6-12 FG 1-3 3FG 2-2 FT in 22 mins in his first regular season game. In a lost.
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Tomislav Zubcic 17 pts 2 Rebs 3 Ast 6-12 FG 1-3 3FG 2-2 FT in 22 mins in his first regular season game. In a lost.
    What is significant is that he was one of the starters (at the 4 presumably). His minutes were down last year. Fifteen minutes a game compared to 24 mpg the year before. It's a good sign.

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    Tomislav Zubcic not so impressive today 2pts 3rebs 3fouls 1-3 FG 0-1 3FG in 12mins
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    Tomislav Zubcic bounce back from a poor showing last game with 13pts 5rebs(4 OFF) 1ast 3to 2-6 FG 0-1 3FG 9-10 FT in 23 mins and came away with the teams first W
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