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Thread: The Regulars vs The New Guys: Which team would win in a game?

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    Default The Regulars vs The New Guys: Which team would win in a game?

    If we were to hypothetically pit these two teams against each other, which team would win?

    Calderon, DeRozan, Kleiza, Bargnani, Amir

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    Lowry, Ross, Fields, Acy, Valanciunas

    Reasons for winning? Which matchups would win?
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    In a really slow time of the year this is a really good thread idea ZZ!

    Lowry > Calderon
    Ross = DD
    Fields = Kleiza (healthy!)
    Acy < Bargnani
    JV (unproven, inexperienced NBA rookie) < Amir


    The old guys win by a rookie season of experience!

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    The new guys win. They would play some tough perimeter defence, and perhaps JV would be able to slow down Bargnani. I could just see Lowry abusing Calderon on offence, and Ross would start drilling 3's left and right. Plus Acy and Val inside craashing the glass and getting tip ins and put backs on every missed attempt. In a game up to 21, the new guys win 21-17.

    haha this a great thread topic though

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    oh and 10 of those 21 points would be off lobs from Lowry. Fields, Acy, Val, and Ross have already proved that if you throw it up near the rim, they'll go and get it. I've seen all four of them finish with nice alley-oop dunks multiple times

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    No, the new guys don't have enough offense. They have Lowry and that's it. There's no way they could defend Calderon, DeRozan and Bargnani well enough to make up for Lowry having to go 1 on 5.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    In a really slow time of the year this is a really good thread idea ZZ!

    Lowry > Calderon
    Ross = DD
    Fields = Kleiza (healthy!)
    Acy < Bargnani
    JV (unproven, inexperienced NBA rookie) < Amir


    The old guys win by a rookie season of experience!
    I wonder if it would be that close because our new guys are that good or because our old guys are that bad, LOL

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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    I wonder if it would be that close because our new guys are that good or because our old guys are that bad, LOL

    What is: "A little from column A and a little from column B, Alex?"


    So true and so sad..... all at the same time.

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    Lowry > Calderon
    Ross < DD
    Fields < Klieza
    Acy < Bargnani <---- Not even fair
    Big V < Amir

    Experience, Chemistry, and nobody stops Barg. Regulars blow out new guys by 20+ points.
    Last edited by alex_elstone; Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 02:41 PM. Reason: Mistake

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    speaking hypothetically of course because of how bored we all are... i would put JV on Bargs... i feel that would cause him a small amount of discomfort... a lot more than acy and Acy can handle Amir a lot better than he could Bargs... also Ross can flat out score... i think old guys would win because calderon would just feed Demar and Bargs both proven scorers imo and then ross and lowry are only guys who can create any sort of offence on new guys

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    I thought you meant the forum newbies vs. the forum regulars. Now that would be interesting.

    As for the raps. I like the new guys better, but I don't think they stand a chance against a team with two really solid vets like Bargs and Calderon. And never underestimate the power of role players who know their role (Amir in a nutshell, and Kleiza is getting there....not so much Derozan lol)

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    Quote themasao wrote: View Post
    I thought you meant the forum newbies vs. the forum regulars. Now that would be interesting.

    I was actually thinking of organizing/helping organize an RR pickup game, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea...
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    Im generally in agreement with the responses, with a couple of exceptions

    1) Amir is not > Val
    2) If you were setting this up as the young guys, doesnt Acy guard Amir (much closer to a push) and Val on AB? While AB is still clearly better than Val - its closer than AB over Acy

    The vets still win .. but the matchups are closer than people are suggesting I think ..

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    the vets win easily. People are under-estimating the effects of chemistry.

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    Lowry > Calderon
    Ross < DD
    Fields > Kleiza
    Acy < Bargnani
    Big V < Amir <--- for now, it'll be the other way around after a year of NBA experience

    The regulars win.

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    LOL, why does everyone keep matching up Acy against the much taller and skilled Bargnani in their match up analysis? Wouldn't it make much more sense to match JV up against Bargs to match height and agility and put the smaller Acy against Amir whom there is no real threat of going off on a scoring spree?

    Don't have to match a PF agains a PF and a C against a C just because those are their designated positions.

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    surprised new guys got so many votes. A lot of faith in second round picks and inexperienced rookies.

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    I feel like a lot of you really overestimate the rookies OR underestimate the regulars.

    Regulars clearly blow the rookies out by 15-20 points.

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    I think the real kicker if we are going defensive match-ups by position, is the Bargnani vs. Acy. Bargnani is the best player on this team, (over time potentially could be Lowry), and putting on an inside banger, shorter player, against a skilled, long-ranged, bigger player who can over-take him at any point offensively.

    Lowry > Calderon
    Ross < Derozan
    Fields <=> Kleiza (Healthy Kleiza vs. Rookie % Fields)
    Acy < Bargnani
    Valanciunas > Amir

    Old lineup wins against the new lineup. Too much inexperience in Ross, Acy, and Valanciunas. Not to mention the chemistry between the old team.

    It's like a coming to an open gym, just making a random team of 5 guys you've seen around the gym. Going up against 5 guys who usually play together in open-gym, or are teammates on a club team, etc etc.

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    Quote Krix wrote: View Post
    surprised new guys got so many votes. A lot of faith in second round picks and inexperienced rookies.
    If they were all rookies .. Id agree .. but Lowry is arguably the best player on the floor and he and Fields have just as much experience as most of the guys on the "vets" team ..

    I still think vets win .. but its resonably close

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    Vets win easily. Between Bargnani's outside-in game and DeRozan driving, Valanciunas would foul out before halftime. We crap on Bargnani here on RR, but he always owns rookies and players who've never defended him before. Also, chemistry & veteran savvy would go a long way, especially against a team with 3 rookies.

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