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Thread: HoopsWorld.com : Six Reasons Why Toronto Makes the Playoffs

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    And you question my open- mindedness and objectivity?

    So let me get this straight:

    You are calling the article a puff piece because he uses a variety of stats to support his position but yet you don't actually give specifics on what you are in disagreement over?


    Also, please tell me how am I misrepresenting your position instead of passing the buck. Please give actual specifics on why the Raptors will not make the playoffs. Brotherston wrote an article on why the Raptors will make the playoffs. Instead of calling it a puff piece and taking jabs at me (even when I originally agreed with one of your points) could you tell us why you don't think the Raptors will make the playoffs with something more specific than 'not everything will go right for the team'? Using that 'simpleton logic' one could easily counter that not everything will go wrong.
    Oh please I already stated how the stats were inconsistent. Go back and read. I'm not going to breakdown his entire article because you want me to or simply won't research how yourself.

    You were the one who responded to me remember? The one who made assumptions. I'm not "passing the buck".

    Oh and I never said the Raptors will not make the playoffs. Nor did I say everything will go wrong. Straw men again.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    By the way, the attempt here is to get better insight in to your (Craiger's) thoughts and opinions to better inform the thoughts and opinions I already have. Personally, I think that is kind of open-minded on my part and showing some objectivity. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure a Wikipedia link could show that to be the case.
    The links were for your information. You are quick to accuse others of being closed minded or bias, while claiming your own open mindedness and objectivity. .

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    Quote Craiger wrote: View Post
    Oh please I already stated how the stats were inconsistent. Go back and read. I'm not going to breakdown his entire article because you want me to or simply won't research how yourself.

    You were the one who responded to me remember? The one who made assumptions. I'm not "passing the buck".

    Oh and I never said the Raptors will not make the playoffs. Nor did I say everything will go wrong. Straw men again.
    You made a general statement about statistics. If you are going to call out Brotherston as puff piece, you could at least explain why in more than a sentence with more thought than what is for dinner. While you claim I lack objectivity and am not open minded, every criticism I gave of Hollinger or Simmons at least had reasoned opinions behind it.

    Yes, I did respond asking questions that you continually jump around while also agreeing with the premise Brotherston has painted a situation where 'everything' goes right for the Raptors. Too bad you rely on the straw man b.s. without actually clarifying anything leaving one to make assumptions on your posts. If you agree with Brotherston's premise (that the Raptors will make the playoffs) why not explain? If you don't agree with Brotherston, why not explain? If you actually don't have an opinion and are just making noise why not state that.

    It is pretty tough to misrepresent your position when as you have clearly stated above you have not actually stated an opinion. Remember the article is about why the Raptors will make the playoffs.

    I suggest you go back and read the posts. If I've offended you in the original reply I do apologize but that was not the intent. If I have made incorrect assumptions I really would have liked an explanation versus a bitchy reply about Hollinger or Simmons. I always thought the purpose of the forums was discussion not cop out replies about straw men.

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    Guys, guys... There's no need to argue.

    If you agree with the article, good.

    If you feel negative about the Raptors, refer to that other thread that I'm too lazy to link to. Or just wallow in your despair. Or go party with Jamshid on the front page articles. LOL
    TORONTOOOOOO RAPTORSSSSSS

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    I can't argue with the stats Brotherston presented in his article. But since he was just a regular poster on this site, then went on to write for Bleacher Report, there's an "amateur hour" feeling surrounding everything he writes. Just my opinion, of course (based on unreliable first impressions).

    Having said that, I hope he's