hmmm maybe casey got his defensive specialist
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Seems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?
I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Axel wrote: View PostSeems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?
I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).
He is what he is as a player.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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Still, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Axel wrote: View PostStill, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.
But I don't imagine a headline of "Atlanta rumoured to be interested in Dominic McGuire" would generate many hits across the web ...
I think you also have to read "Defensive Stopper" with a small grain of salt.
(Not that anyone has seriously called him a "defensive stopper".)
Keeping in mind how much he will cost us, and that he is a 'Casey-guy'; he is a solid pickup, relatively speaking.
He is a Role-Player, and Rotation guy. Nothing more.
Most of the "Good teams" you speak of, are quite heavy on solid Role-Players, and would likely rather leave a spot open in case someone becomes available via Waivers or elsewhere.Last edited by Joey; Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:32 PM.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostI think you also have to read "Defensive Stopper" with a small grain of salt.
(Not that anyone has seriously called him a "defensive stopper".)
Good tough defender
astoundingly good defensively
very rugged defender! Even shutdown Carmelo
McGuirre is effing AWESOME. He can guard 4 positions... last year we had him on guys like Deron and Rose at clutch moments
Dude is a damn good defender
He could defend all positions and shut down everyone.
Top notch defender and athlete
So I was taking the culmination of those comments to think that people actually view this guy as a legit defender in the league.
As for your point about the good teams already having solid role players, I agree that most teams have their roles, but if this guy was a defender anything like what some fans of his are saying, then surely he'd have more interest in the league than a post-labour day signing that isn't fully guaranteed. I'm sure a team like the Lakers could cut him and swallow the portion of his salary if a better player became available later on and be happy to have a guy that "destroyed Chris Paul" last year.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Axel wrote: View PostI get your point, and when I re-read the full thread, most of the gushing came from Warriors fan perspectives that were added, but still, here are some of the lines you read in this thread:
Good tough defender
astoundingly good defensively
very rugged defender! Even shutdown Carmelo
McGuirre is effing AWESOME. He can guard 4 positions... last year we had him on guys like Deron and Rose at clutch moments
Dude is a damn good defender
He could defend all positions and shut down everyone.
Top notch defender and athlete
So I was taking the culmination of those comments to think that people actually view this guy as a legit defender in the league.
As for your point about the good teams already having solid role players, I agree that most teams have their roles, but if this guy was a defender anything like what some fans of his are saying, then surely he'd have more interest in the league than a post-labour day signing that isn't fully guaranteed. I'm sure a team like the Lakers could cut him and swallow the portion of his salary if a better player became available later on and be happy to have a guy that "destroyed Chris Paul" last year.
Obviously, its ALL speculation at this point, and the only people who realy know are DM, BC and his Agent. But regardless of whether he received widespread interest, or no interest at all; his role on the team will likely be equal to that of his pay-cheque. Minimal.
Unless GSW fans know something we don't ... and in which case, he'll be starting Opening Day at the 3.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostLOL Never read any of those actually. Thats funny.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Axel wrote: View PostStill, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.
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Axel wrote: View PostSeems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?
I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).
The deal is not even guaranteed it seems. Always nice to have a guy fighting for his pay cheque who is already an aggressive defender and rebounder.
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Matt52 wrote: View Post...Always nice to have a guy fighting for his pay cheque who is already an aggressive defender and rebounder.
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