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Thread: Feeling down on the Raptors? Please tell me why.

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    Quote Copywryter wrote: View Post
    I'm pessimistic because there isn't much reason for optimism.

    The team as constituted:

    Bargs: an incredibly skilled big who is defensively unreliable and a historically poor rebounder
    DeRozan: a hard-working kid with big ups who can't really shoot from range and can't get his shot off against above-average defenders
    Amir: a great 7th or 8th guy
    JV: a rookie center, who, even if he pans out, will need 3-5 years to develop. Haven't seen too much from the kid yet.
    Weak at the 3.
    An above average (10-15th ranked) point guard and trade bait backup


    This lineup scares no one.

    Other reasons for dismay:

    An improved but still very average bench
    A GM who clearly doesn't have a plan. His pursuit of Nash showed as much.
    No all-star talent since CB4 and none in the works. Bargs playing well for 13 games does not count. JV is a question mark.
    A team/city that's held in poor regard by other players
    Other teams in our division improving and/or having deep pockets
    A fan base that overestimates its chances/talent, underestimates the talent on other teams, and always hopes for next year
    This is another good post. I don't necessarily agree but I appreciate the time put in to constructive insights.

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    Quote WhatWhat wrote: View Post
    Rookies simply are not very impactful. In fact, they are usually inefficient and struggle on defense. If they do become impactful, they are either surefire stars or in a small role. Jonas will be a prime example of a rookie's struggles. It would be a miracle if he isn't fouling at high Amir-like rates in his first season. He still really needs to hit the gym, in fact he should actually take an entire offseason just to focus on gain strength. But his national team wiil b!tch at him, even though it would benefit them (and the Raptors) long-term...and he barely played anyway.

    Casey's himself is anticipating the defense to regress (3:20 mark).

    Lowry's presence is negated by Bargnani being healthy and the loss of JJ... and replacing him with Fields. Fields isn't any nearly as good as a defender as JJ is. More importantly, with Bargnani back, we'd NEED JJ's excellent help defense.

    Long term, we should be better. But THIS season, we will likely regress defensively, while becoming better offensively.
    Valid argument, but I can't buy it. I know Jonas probably won't be very effective in his rookie year, but he is still a step in the right direction. And D.Casey still has Amir and Ed if Jonas isn't capable. Lowry guarding opposing pg's will make a huge difference for the team on the defensive end, regardless of who else is on the floor. And Casey is ALL over Andrea on the defensive end of the floor, so I don't think he'll be that much of a liability. We all saw how he busted his butt on P&R defense last season, and his 1on1 defense wasn't atrocious. As for the loss of JJ, yeah it sucks, he was my favorite player last year. But even though he was strong defensively, he wasn't exactly the smartest defender. Fields is praised for his BBall IQ, defense, and rebounding. So I feel like he could fill in for JJ quite well.
    Again, not saying they are better defensively, but I just don't see the regression considering the roster changes. But who knows, I could easily be wrong.. Its just my opinion

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    Quote Raptor_11 wrote: View Post
    Valid argument, but I can't buy it. I know Jonas probably won't be very effective in his rookie year, but he is still a step in the right direction. And D.Casey still has Amir and Ed if Jonas isn't capable. Lowry guarding opposing pg's will make a huge difference for the team on the defensive end, regardless of who else is on the floor. And Casey is ALL over Andrea on the defensive end of the floor, so I don't think he'll be that much of a liability. ...Fields is praised for his BBall IQ, defense, and rebounding. So I feel like he could fill in for JJ quite well.
    Again, not saying they are better defensively, but I just don't see the regression considering the roster changes. But who knows, I could easily be wrong..
    I doubt it.

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    I think that this year everyone seems to have a pretty realistic view on what the raptors will achieve. A little bit of optimism is