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    Default Bosh is an Average Defender.

    I have to get this off my chest...

    Bargs is a superior defender to Bosh. That being said Bosh is not any worse than an average PF defender. He (like Kobe, Lebron, Wade, and any other heavily used star) has to pick and choose his spots when it comes to gambling defensively since, you know, he’s expected to log 40mpg and contribute 23/11/1blk/2ast every night – hence why Triano uses Bargs against EVERY team’s dominant offensive big. If he has to pick which one fouls out and who finishes the game, Bosh is always going to be his priority.

    If you break down the percentage of good/average/poor defensive plays made by any superstar you’ll find yourself watching ALOT of plays where relative shmoe’s like Demar Derozan blow by Lebron on the baseline like he's Jose Calderon (remember that?).

    EVERY superstar takes a good chunk of their defensive assignments off to preserve offensive stamina during the regular season. Watch the difference between Kobe/Lebron/Wade regular season and Kobe/Lebron/Wade playoffs…

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    I don't know man,
    but I think of the MJs, the KGs, the Duncans and others,
    and they played great D while contributing heavily on offense on a regular basis.
    I can't see any reason why a star, or any player can't be effective on both ends of the floor.

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    It seems that somewhere along the way Bargnani became a better defender then Bosh. But I dont think anyone can argue that Bosh is one of the rebounding leaders of the league. Bosh is no chump on lateral quicks and vertical hops but now that he's lost all the muscle he put on in the offseason he can't handle a true big in the post. Heck Bargnani can't really handle a Shaq, or Bogut, or Perkins, but he does a better job than CB. Few and far between are the guys who got it all like Tim Duncan or Gary Payton in his day.

    Note: I didn't include Dwight Howard in the power big man discussion because he is the most glorified garbage bucket player in the league. Guy has no offensive game other than get the offensive board and throw down a nasty looking dunk.
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    Quote shadow warrior wrote: View Post
    I don't know man,
    but I think of the MJs, the KGs, the Duncans and others,
    and they played great D while contributing heavily on offense on a regular basis.
    I see where you're coming from, but I have a feeling selective memory/legend status has something to do with that general opinion.... the longer they're gone, the better they seem to get... but Duncan gets beat plenty on the defensive side - Bosh and Bargs have both shook him out of his shorts on occation - It's just the clutch moments and playoff performance (think Bargs against the Knicks last week) that seem to form the consensus opinions on defense...
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    Quote Prophet2k wrote: View Post
    Note: I didn't include Dwight Howard in the power big man discussion because he is the most glorified garbage bucket player in the league. Guy has no offensive game other than get the offensive board and throw down a nasty looking dunk.
    Ummm... gotta really disagree with you on this one. Howard has changed his offensive game from ONLY dunking on everyone to being able to create off post moves and running hook shots. He has some really nice new post moves this season that Patrick Ewing has worked with him on. He has that running hook shot that is becoming one of his go to moves now but really, he's getting some really nice spin moves and pivot moves that create great baby hooks or dunks for him now. Just because he finishes with a thunderous dunks doesn't mean that he isn't making a great move to get that close to the rim in order to dunk it. Every big man in the league can hammer a dunk when they are 2 feet away from it, but not every player can get themselves open 2 feet from the rim in order to dunk the ball. I think Howard is one of the top players in the post and that isn't because he's just strong and athletic, it's because he can get to the basket and finish. Don't hate on him because he doesn't have a 10 or 15 foot jumpshot, or that he doesn't dribble drive the ball to the basket. He's a powerful center like Shaq in his prime. He makes post moves and he's very good at it.

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